nguyenRefunded the game and that was a good idea LOL, some people with 4090 were reporting great gaming experience at first and later they experience crashes, like a lot.

ZoneDymoEven those claiming it was ever a solid experience are just lying, there is no fighting against compilation stutter which this game also suffers from.

sepheronxThis I feel fits

sepheronxAnd here how is on PS5



This game doesn't even look that good yet runs like crap everywhere.

This I feel fits

DenverYes, it looks exactly like this. Plus, 14364432215786 programming languages irrationally created

R-T-B*sighs*

I love when people with next to no knowledge of development, decide things like this must be universal truths.

nguyenRefunded the game and that was a good idea LOL, some people with 4090 were reporting great gaming experience at first and later they experience crashes, like a lot.

DenverDo you have the nerve to say that the programmers of two decades ago weren't obviously obliged to work harder and be better than the current ones?

nguyen...some people with 4090 were reporting great gaming experience at first and later they experience crashes, like a lot.

PsychoholicFor what its worth, it runs great on my system after the update (7950x/7900XTX)

PsychoholicFor what its worth, it runs great on my system after the update (7950x/7900XTX)

chrcolukThats good but I am curious to see reports from people on older gens, especially mid range hardware like e.g. 3600X or 10700K. The dev's announcement is a little concerning where they seem to be hinting the performance on lower spec machines is ok.

R-T-BI would refund but I got it for free with my 7950x, so... I'll probably play it if/when it gets better. From what I hear the story is decent, but how can they release a game in this state? It's beyond excusable.

R-T-BHonestly, they just want a good story so bad they are willing to put up with the horrendous condition. Which is very very sad.

R-T-BProgrammers are not by nature lazy people. It's lazy to blame them, honestly. Some game engines and programing methods are less memory efficient, but more time efficient, and guess what? Publishers love that.

Blame the publisher. They put the conditions that made this release, I promise you. I can virtually guarantee you not a single dev thought it was ready.

TheinsanegamerNHow?

TheinsanegamerNThese devs are either re creating their code from scratch for every release or are just unwilling to optimize their code in ANY way.

R-T-BProbably some feature bullet points set by the publisher that very much increase dev time for minimal game. Without the list, I can only speculate from consumerside features, but I'd personally bet on the "raytracing" checkbox first and foremost.

R-T-BWhy is it always an ultimatum like this with gamers?

R-T-BIt makes me know you have no idea what goes into making a game, that you think it is so black and white like this.

PsychoholicFor what its worth, it runs great on my system after the update (7950x/7900XTX)

TheinsanegamerNBecause millions will consooome it regardless.

For any remaining star wars fans this is the only thing with the hint of quality that the games carried 20 years ago.

Somehow, by using the same game engine, one they had already worked with before, and REMOVING the low end target of the PS4/xbone, said devs managed to make the game run worse.

How? All they had to do from a technical standpoint was make some new maps and add some higher rez textures. How do you screw that up? If it's not laziness, is it incompetence? On performance mode, they are up-scaling the game from 896p. Sub 1080p. In 2023. There is no reason this game should run like absolute garbage. Fallen order doesnt look noticeably better or worse, yet only uses 4.2GB of VRAM and runs at 4k on a 2080ti. On the same game engine.

These devs are either re creating their code from scratch for every release or are just unwilling to optimize their code in ANY way. Which is laziness. You claim its the publisher, people claimed the same thing when bioware kept screwing up, only it came out that EA was hands off with them and they royally screwed themselves.

64KI'm not surprised. Your hardware is brute-forcing the game but I'm sure that you know that you are in a very small group that can afford your hardware.

TheinsanegamerNYou can trust me, I comment on the INTERNET!"

TheinsanegamerNYou have yet to offer any explanation as to how, using a game engine that runs on the PS4, the same engine that was sued to make the last game, the devs managed to tank performance this hard.

R-T-BI'd put laziness behind "overworked devs" 9 times out of 10 though, having actually worked this market in the past.

TheinsanegamerNBecause millions will consooome it regardless.

For any remaining star wars fans this is the only thing with the hint of quality that the games carried 20 years ago.

Somehow, by using the same game engine, one they had already worked with before, and REMOVING the low end target of the PS4/xbone, said devs managed to make the game run worse.

How? All they had to do from a technical standpoint was make some new maps and add some higher rez textures. How do you screw that up? If it's not laziness, is it incompetence? On performance mode, they are up-scaling the game from 896p. Sub 1080p. In 2023. There is no reason this game should run like absolute garbage. Fallen order doesnt look noticeably better or worse, yet only uses 4.2GB of VRAM and runs at 4k on a 2080ti. On the same game engine.

These devs are either re creating their code from scratch for every release or are just unwilling to optimize their code in ANY way. Which is laziness. You claim its the publisher, people claimed the same thing when bioware kept screwing up, only it came out that EA was hands off with them and they royally screwed themselves.