Monday, July 17th 2023

AMD Planning September Launch for Radeon RX 7800 series and RX 7700 series

AMD is planning to plug the Atlantic gap between its mainstream Radeon RX 7600 and enthusiast-class RX 7900 XT with the RX 7800 series and RX 7700 series, with either an announcement or teaser planned for 2023 Gamescom, which is scheduled for August. There could be up to four new graphics card SKUs announced, with their product launches spread across Q3 and Q4 2023. The "Navi 32" MCM is expected to power at least three of these SKUs, while it was recently rumored that AMD could design a new GPU that has the GCD of the "Navi 31" on the package of "Navi 32" with its four MCDs, to end up with a higher CU count than what the "Navi 32" can offer.

The "Navi 32" GPU is an MCM, just like the "Navi 31" powering the RX 7900 series. It is rumored to feature a 5 nm GCD (graphics compute die) with 60 RDNA3 compute units, which work out to 3,840 stream processors, 120 AI accelerators, 60 Ray Accelerators, 240 TMUs, and possibly 128 ROPs. The four 6 nm MCDs give it 64 MB of Infinity Cache, and a 256-bit wide GDDR6 memory interface. Assuming the RX 7800 XT uses the unnamed new MCM with the GCD of the "Navi 31" that has a CU count somewhere between 60 and 72, a maxed-out "Navi 32" could power the RX 7800, while its cut-down variants power the RX 7700 XT and RX 7700.
Sources: Moore's Law is Dead (YouTube), VideoCardz
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59 Comments on AMD Planning September Launch for Radeon RX 7800 series and RX 7700 series

#51
wheresmycar
forman313If they keep this up, a lot of casual gamers are going to move on to other things like programming, tinkering and outdoor activities. Who knows.. Maybe even get a girlfriend.
forman313What ever kind of partner or partners their heart desires. I don't care.

So... Husbond as opposed to GF. Nice one
but.. but.. but what if the casual gamer is a he-she-hybrid who believes they're a cat during the day, a lion during the night but a teapot on the weekends?

we need more clarity
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#52
AusWolf
forman313Its going to take more than 10 X's for me to get one if they are $550.
Only 9 should be $200 at most. Unless RGB is very good and makes me look kewl in the eyes of 25y old kids.

If they keep this up, a lot of casual gamers are going to move on to other things like programming, tinkering and outdoor activities. Who knows.. Maybe even get a girlfriend.
I'm a casual gamer, and I have a girlfriend (who is not, by the way). How cool is that? :cool:

Just one tip for those who are wondering: don't try to impress women with the RGB setup on your high-end GPU. It won't work.
wheresmycarbut.. but.. but what if the casual gamer is a he-she-hybrid who believes they're a cat during the day, a lion during the night but a teapot on the weekends?

we need more clarity
I guess that's a lost case already. :laugh:
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#53
wheresmycar
AusWolfI guess that's a lost case already. :laugh:
lol .... in the least, if they were to move on from gaming, on the weekends pulling a teabag would be a good start hehe
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#54
Chry
Any guesses on the release prices for 7700/7700XT ? In Europe?
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#55
Macro Device
ChryAny guesses on the release prices for 7700/7700XT ? In Europe?
Slightly above 400 Euro non-XT. 430 perhaps.
About 500 Euro 7700 XT I guess.

Will then drop because no reasonable person wants this for this loads of cash.
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#56
Chry
Beginner Micro DeviceSlightly above 400 Euro non-XT. 430 perhaps.
About 500 Euro 7700 XT I guess.

Will then drop because no reasonable person wants this for this loads of cash.
Cheapest 7600 in my country is 289.99€.
So I guess 7700 will start from around 400 and might dip under.
That's a little over my comfort zone but I'll see.
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#57
Macro Device
ChryThat's a little over my comfort zone but I'll see.
In my area, used 6800 XTs cost so little (a nickle below €300) it lost any sense to wait for next-gen middles. It's cheaper than a 7600!

And 3 years since the release is just the sweet spot. You have almost no chance to fail in purchasing if you go for such cards. Almost all of those with "childhood diseases" are long gone.

Yeah, RX 7800 might be a little faster and a little more power efficient than a 6800 XT but 2-month waiting... Too taxing. I'd grab a used 6800 XT and call it a day if I was you. Just check the reviews on your seller and don't forget to test and examine their card before giving your money.

//seeing an RX 6700 XT made me doubt the sanity of such "upgrade." Is 50 percent speed boost worth all that trouble?//
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#58
tajoh111
Chrispy_If the RX 7600 is anything to go by, AMD at least understands that stuff will rot on shelves if it's not price-competitive with other options in the same performance segment.

The official $279 MSRP of the RX 7600 wasn't awful against the selling price of the outgoing 6650XT and 6600XT, but the street pricing drop to $249 makes it a compelling buy among the 8GB competition and heavily-discounted Ampere stock that's still selling.

AMD don't need to compete with the 40-series on price, they know they need to compete with the entire open GPU market.
AMD actually did something dirty for the RTX 4060 launch and it is reflected in this post.

When the RTX 4060 launched, AMD and their partners launched temporary rebates to make it appear the RX 7600 was now 249.99 and reviews reflected this including the techpowerup one.

However look at pricing today from AMAZON and Newegg and you will see their are zero RX 7600 listed for 249.99 and all of them are pretty much the starting MSRP of RX 7600 of 269.99.

www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rx+7600

www.amazon.com/s?k=rx+7600&sprefix=%2Caps%2C113&ref=nb_sb_ss_recent_1_0_recent

I wonder if AMD emailed all the reviewers this pricing because no one is referencing the 269.99 price of the card.

At $50 cheaper, the rx 7600 kind of makes sense vs the RTX 4060. However at 30 dollars cheaper(10%) with the small performance advantage of the RTX 4060, it's basically a push with Nvidia software stack and power efficiency
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#59
Chrispy_
tajoh111AMD actually did something dirty for the RTX 4060 launch and it is reflected in this post.

When the RTX 4060 launched, AMD and their partners launched temporary rebates to make it appear the RX 7600 was now 249.99 and reviews reflected this including the techpowerup one.

However look at pricing today from AMAZON and Newegg and you will see their are zero RX 7600 listed for 249.99 and all of them are pretty much the starting MSRP of RX 7600 of 269.99.

www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rx+7600

www.amazon.com/s?k=rx+7600&sprefix=%2Caps%2C113&ref=nb_sb_ss_recent_1_0_recent

I wonder if AMD emailed all the reviewers this pricing because no one is referencing the 269.99 price of the card.

At $50 cheaper, the rx 7600 kind of makes sense vs the RTX 4060. However at 30 dollars cheaper(10%) with the small performance advantage of the RTX 4060, it's basically a push with Nvidia software stack and power efficiency
IMO you still buy the 6650XT until stocks run out. I see those on Newegg US at $225 right now.

Regional pricing is always a factor, I just checked the big three in the UK and the 7600 is £10 cheaper than the 6650XT at OCUK, priced identically at Ebuyer, and only £10 more at Scan. At price parity, you get the 7600, but otherwise just get the cheapest. The 8GB VRAM will be the problem in the future long before the GPUs lack enough shader power to deliver frames fast enougn.
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