Thursday, July 27th 2023
NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4090 Ti, Next-Gen Flagship to Feature 512-bit Memory Bus
NVIDIA has reportedly shelved plans in the short term to release the rumored GeForce RTX 4090 Ti flagship graphics card, according to Kopite7kimi, a reliable source with NVIDIA leaks. This card had been extensively leaked over the past few months as featuring a cinder block-like 4-slot thickness, and a unique PCB that's along the plane of the motherboard, rather than perpendicular to it. From the looks of it, sales and competition in the high-end/halo segment are too slow, the current RTX 4090 remains the fastest graphics card you can buy, and the company seems unfazed by the alleged Radeon RX 7950 series, given that AMD has already maxed out the "Navi 31" silicon, and there are only so many things the red team can try, to beat the RTX 4090.
That said, the company is reportedly planning more SKUs based on the AD103 and AD106 silicon. The AD103 powers the GeForce RTX 4080, which nearly maxes it out. The AD104 has been maxed out by the RTX 4070 Ti, and there could be a gap between the RTX 4070 Ti and the RTX 4080 that AMD could try to exploit by competitively pricing its RX 7900 series, and certain upcoming SKUs. This creates scope for new SKUs based on cut-down AD103 and the GPU's 256-bit memory bus. The AD106 is nearly maxed out with the RTX 4060 Ti, however there's still room to unlock its last remaining TPC, use faster GDDR6X memory, and attempt to slim the vast gap between the RTX 4060 Ti and the RTX 4070.
In related news, Kopite7kimi also claims that NVIDIA's next-generation flagship GPU could feature a 512-bit wide memory interface, in what could be an early hint that the company is sticking with GDDR6X (currently as fast as 23 Gbps), and not transitioning over to the GDDR7 standard (starts at 32 Gbps), which offers double the speeds of GDDR6.
Sources:
VideoCardz, kopite7kimi (Twitter), kopite7kimi (Twitter)
That said, the company is reportedly planning more SKUs based on the AD103 and AD106 silicon. The AD103 powers the GeForce RTX 4080, which nearly maxes it out. The AD104 has been maxed out by the RTX 4070 Ti, and there could be a gap between the RTX 4070 Ti and the RTX 4080 that AMD could try to exploit by competitively pricing its RX 7900 series, and certain upcoming SKUs. This creates scope for new SKUs based on cut-down AD103 and the GPU's 256-bit memory bus. The AD106 is nearly maxed out with the RTX 4060 Ti, however there's still room to unlock its last remaining TPC, use faster GDDR6X memory, and attempt to slim the vast gap between the RTX 4060 Ti and the RTX 4070.
75 Comments on NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4090 Ti, Next-Gen Flagship to Feature 512-bit Memory Bus
Shame AMD have no SGSSAA else I would have hopped over.
And I can sell only 1 kidney...
But nah, anything for a few more clicks, amirite?
As per RTX 4090 Ti, launching it would've made some sorta "sense" only if AMD or anyone else had something faster than the plain 4090. And this never happened. Jacketguy doesn't have to put an effort in Ada. Focusing on getting as much profit as inhumanly possible from RTX 5000 series is his only sensible way of investing his time as of now.
The 6700 XT is a little ahead of the 3060 Ti at 1080p and 1440p by a similar margin and falls slightly behind at 4K, where both cards are useless at 46fps. 3070 is ~10% faster at both 1080p and 1440p. The 6700 XT is a well-balanced card at the resolutions it's targetted to.
If you want to look at the 6800 XT and 3080, they are separated by less than 3% at all resolutions. The 3080 scales slightly better to 4K but we're talking about a few frames, which is nothing you will notice while playing a game. These are very small differences.
www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-merc-310-oc/39.html
There are good guesses why this is happening but nobody knows for sure outside of AMD. Hell, they don't seem to know hence the missing 7700 and 7800 series.
Outside of architectural advances/hardware prowess theres no doubt some games are just better optimised for Nvidia cards. There are several contributing factors which puts Nvidia in a more rewarding position with developers/game engines. The obvious one: Nvidias market share (gaming) is MASSIVE!! Almost the whole cake! The bigger the player the greater the influence (IMO). Nvidia uses this influence through dedicated dev-interaction departments (or think tanks) translating to increased developer/game engine relations, shared proprietary tech for testing/implementation (some games are better optimised on Nvidia tech) and then theres sponsored favouritism - bigger pockets, greater reach. AMD's no different but with smaller pockets on a smaller scale (they've got a long way to play catch up with the king of the hill). In short, a ~2% margin is best ignored.
Nowadays i don't concern myself with dev/GE interactions but question whether there's some level of premeditated conformity between both manufacturers in playing the market. You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours is good business sense (under the table of course). I think i better shut up and go back to being a good law abiding consumer :respect:
I'm guessing your "premeditated conformity" between GPU manufacturers only applies to the duopoly right? Because Intel is far too small a player now in the GPU market to shoulder them aside.
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Since there's a huge gap and nvidia's timeline now no new gpus till 2025 I would say there would be a refresh launch Q4 this year or maybe at CES probably a super or something series I would expect.
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Nvidia's ability to iterate on PCB and cooler design in such a short period of time is seriously impressive. I hope they keep this momentum going forward.
600 Watts isn't that much more than what 4090's can draw now. My 4090, when playing Dishonored 2 at maxed DSR resolution, posted the following peak power draw stats:
"aftrbrner: 574.9 Watts, GPU 16-pin HVPWR power max.: 551.2 Watts, GPU PCIe +12V Input Power max.: 15.6W"
Anyways as for the 4090Ti "cancellation" Nvidia is not selling anywhere near enough 4090s and even less 4080s. I will bet hard $$$ that the slow high end sales is why the 5000s is "delayed until 2025" and the 4090Ti is "cancelled"