Tuesday, September 5th 2023

Intel Core i9-14900K Tested in Geekbench & CPU-Z

An alleged Intel Core i9-14900K engineering sample CPU was tested out recently in CPU-Z, with results leaked onto the internet earlier this week—courtesy of wnxod—978 points in single-core and 18117.5 points in multi-core. This particular sample of the flagship Raptor Lake Refresh processor managed to surpass its predecessors quite handily—with 9.7% SC/8.4% MC gains over the i9-13900K (Raptor Lake), and an uplift of 19.4% SC/59% MC over the i9-12900K (Alder Lake). Thanks to the i9-14900K's Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) capability, it is able to hit a maximum 6.0 GHz clock speed (with P-cores) on 1.385 volts according to the leaked CPU-Z info.

Another example was put through the ringer via Geekbench 6.1.0 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-bit. The database entry popped up this morning, and several PC hardware news outlets were quick to pounce on the figures. In terms of single core performance, the benched Core i9-14900K achieved a score of 3121—blowing past a previous record holder—3089 set by a Core i9-13900KS CPU. Intel's 14th generation contender looks to be the fastest single-threaded chip out there, despite a less than optimal test system configuration—16 GB of DDR5-4800 memory on a Biostar Z790A-Silver mainboard, with Windows running a balanced power plan. The Core i9-14900K's multi-core score lagged behind its main rival—19032 versus 21678 (respectively). It would be nice to witness some nicer test builds materialize as we get closer to Intel's Innovation September event, and the rumored launch of K-series Raptor Lake Refresh processors around late October.
The Geekbench database entry and VideoCardz comparison chart are visible below:
Sources: VideoCardz #1, VideoCardz #2, Wccftech
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72 Comments on Intel Core i9-14900K Tested in Geekbench & CPU-Z

#26
lexluthermiester
fevgatosI assumed he is talking about multithreaded since he mentioned 400 watts power draw.
I think he was referring to earlier comments in the thread with all the graphs. The reality is, that while the 14900k is going to be a monster CPU, in gaming the 7800X3D is still the best bang-for-buck option with the 5800X3D coming up a close second. Intel's options are solid, but expensive and eat a lot of power. The point @Crackong was making was that their current CPU is excellent and the 14900k just doesn't complete well with it, especially considering the power usage.
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#27
chrcoluk
phanbueyCurious about the power as well. Although 15th gen looks to be right around the corner... not sure anyone on alderlake will want these unless the prices are low.
Yeah I think everyone is waiting for the power usage data. I personally am curious if the new integrated controller will be part of these chips.

However in the current era a newer gen is always around the corner since hardware is released so frequently now days, and 14th gen will be the fastest chip Intel have made that works on DDR4 (which reduces the platform cost considerably for anyone who currently has DDR4) so I think there will be demand for it.
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#28
Crackong
fevgatosThe 14900k will be miles faster than your 7800x 3d if you set both to same wattage, so I have no clue wtf are you trying to prove here
Same Wattage?
The 7800X3D is like... 80 - 90 Watts in TPU Reviews.
14900k in 90 Watts will be a mile faster than 7800X3D ??

What a bold claim.
lexluthermiesterI think he was referring to earlier comments in the thread with all the graphs. The reality is, that while the 14900k is going to be a monster CPU, in gaming the 7800X3D is still the best bang-for-buck option with the 5800X3D coming up a close second. Intel's options are solid, but expensive and eat a lot of power. The point @Crackong was making was that their current CPU is excellent and the 14900k just doesn't complete well with it, especially considering the power usage.
Exactly.

There is no doubt the 14900k will be a fast CPU, or the fastest.
But in my perspective, the power consumption and the heat completely outweighs the benefit.
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#29
Super Firm Tofu
CrackongSame Wattage?
The 7800X3D is like... 80 - 90 Watts in TPU Reviews.
14900k in 90 Watts will be a mile faster than 7800X3D ??

What a bold claim.
Care to share your R23 Score at 84 watts?

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#30
fevgatos
CrackongSame Wattage?
The 7800X3D is like... 80 - 90 Watts in TPU Reviews.
14900k in 90 Watts will be a mile faster than 7800X3D ??
In MT performance? Yes, at 90w it will poop all over the 3d. Even a 12900k does beat it easily. The 3d is only "efficient" at 1080p gaming with a 4090.
Super Firm TofuCare to share your R23 Score at 84 watts?

Yeah, that's my point, the 7800x 3d needs 400 watts and ln2 canisters to reach that score. I already have a 400w card in my rig, don't want to have to deal with a 400w CPU on top of that. Pass.
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#31
lexluthermiester
fevgatosIn MT performance? Yes, at 90w it will poop all over the 3d. Even a 12900k does beat it easily. The 3d is only "efficient" at 1080p gaming with a 4090.
What?!?
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/

1080P performance is excellent against the 13900k, to say nothing about the 12900k.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/19.html

4K performance is ALSO excellent but it has less of a lead against the 13900k, but the 12900k is handily beaten
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/21.html
fevgatosYeah, that's my point, the 7800x 3d needs 400 watts and ln2 canisters to reach that score.
Moose muffins!
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/23.html

And overclocked;
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/26.html

The 14900k might beat out the 7800X3D in gaming, but it is unlikely to be by much. For someone who has a 7800X3D already, the 14900k would not be an upgrade, especially for the prices at play.
So, you where saying?
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#32
fevgatos
lexluthermiesterWhat?!?
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/

1080P performance is excellent against the 13900k, to say nothing about the 12900k.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/19.html

4K performance is ALSO excellent but it has less of a lead against the 13900k, but the 12900k is handily beaten
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/21.html


Moose muffins!
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/23.html

And overclocked;
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/26.html

The 14900k might beat out the 7800X3D in gaming, but it is unlikely to be by much. For someone who has a 7800X3D already, the 14900k would not be an upgrade, especially for the prices at play.
So, you where saying?
Again, I was talking about multithreaded performance. If you wanna talk about games sure, no problem, but let's clear that up cause we are talking 2 different things
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#33
lexluthermiester
fevgatosAgain, I was talking about multithreaded performance. If you wanna talk about games sure, no problem, but let's clear that up cause we are talking 2 different things
No, YOU are talking about MTP, Crackong was talking about gaming. Context is important. Why are you ignoring that point?

So to be clear, the gaming performance of the 14900k will likely be top shelf, but will not compare well to the 7800X3D in gaming.
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#34
fevgatos
lexluthermiesterNo, YOU are talking about MTP, Crackong was talking about gaming. Context is important. Why are you ignoring that point?

So to be clear, the gaming performance of the 14900k will likely be top shelf, but will not compare well to the 7800X3D in gaming.
How could he be talking about gaming when he said the cpu will be drawing 400 watts? What CPU draws 400 watts in gaming?????
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#35
chrcoluk
Super Firm TofuCare to share your R23 Score at 84 watts?

How you get that box on the right? never seen that before on cinebench.
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#36
fevgatos
chrcolukHow you get that box on the right? never seen that before on cinebench.
It's not from cinebench, it's benchmate. You download it and run the benchmarks through its ui and it shows those statistics.
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#37
Crackong
Super Firm TofuCare to share your R23 Score at 84 watts?
Don't need to.
Everyone and their dog knows an 8 core can't compete to a 8+16 in this specific perfect scaling workload you choose to compete.
If I want to do the same to you I could load up Factorio and your 13900k can't come close even in at 350W.
The fact that you completely missed the point of 7800X3D being a gaming CPU explains everything and no time is worth wasting on you.
fevgatosHow could he be talking about gaming when he said the cpu will be drawing 400 watts? What CPU draws 400 watts in gaming?????
400Watt is clearly an exaggeration mocking the fake TDP and increasing power limit of latest generation of Intel CPU.

From TPU 13900k review, the 13900k sometimes does draw close to 200W in gaming, not too far from it 253W official power limit.





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#38
fevgatos
CrackongDon't need to.
Everyone and their dog knows an 8 core can't compete to a 8+16 in this specific perfect scaling workload you choose to compete.
If I want to do the same to you I could load up Factorio and your 13900k can't come close even in at 350W.
The fact that you completely missed the point of 7800X3D being a gaming CPU explains everything and no time is worth wasting on you.




400Watt is clearly an exaggeration mocking the fake TDP and increasing power limit of latest generation of Intel CPU.

From TPU 13900k review, the 13900k sometimes does draw close to 200W in gaming, not too far from it 253W official power limit.





Average power draw on the graph you posted is 117w. Your interpratation is 400w. Your non exaggeration is 200w. Okay buddy
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#39
Crackong
fevgatosAverage power draw on the graph you posted is 117w. Your interpratation is 400w. Your non exaggeration is 200w. Okay buddy
In the TPU 7800X3D review the same graph gives an average of 49.1W
Are you going to treat the 7800X3D as a 49.1W CPU?


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#40
fevgatos
CrackongIn the TPU 7800X3D review the same graph gives an average of 49.1W
Are you going to treat the 7800X3D as a 49.1W CPU?


I'm not treating any cpu as an X wattage cpu. Power draw is the easiest thing you can change on cpus. I don't care the slightest about how much power they draw out of the box. I care about how fast they perform if I put all of them at the same wattage. That's what I personally call efficiency, everything else is useless to me. So in that regard, the 7800x 3d is a dog ass slow and inefficient cpu, especially considering the price. You may disagree, after all it's just my opinion
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#41
SureSure
lolek86Even ryzen 7600 with safe auto +200mhz overclock and cheap 6000 memory with tight settings can do 3100 single core in geekbench. All that with only with single tower 4heatpipe Fera 5 cooling.
browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2343352
it was 7.73 GHz Lol...
normaly it can run 5.1-5.3 GHz 24/7
so not even close 3000 points, 7600 is slow.

but intel points was Stock no OC.
But Amd fanboys dont know that..
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#42
theouto
R0H1TNot OCed, out of the box ~
Honestly, not sure if I am amazed at intels horrible power consumption or amds amazing efficiency, but damn the intel chips draw a lot of power, as much as a gpu at some points, that is worrying, really hoping intel gets their hands on some more efficient designs soon
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#43
pavle
The room heater saga continues, now with extra 5% added performance.
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#44
fevgatos
theoutoHonestly, not sure if I am amazed at intels horrible power consumption or amds amazing efficiency, but damn the intel chips draw a lot of power, as much as a gpu at some points, that is worrying, really hoping intel gets their hands on some more efficient designs soon
Would you be surprised if I told you if you power limit them to same power draw, Efficiency is very similar between a 7950x and a 13900ks? Because it is.

But yes, if you ask the cpu to draw 400 watts, it will, and it won't be efficient. No cpu is at that point
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#45
chrcoluk
I agree on the efficiency points, but I also have no sympathy for Intel, end of the day they decided to ship their CPUs in a overclocked configuration, and they did it for the performance plaudits, so they have to take the downside with that as well, although granted no motherboard should be shipping unlimited PL1/2.

The even went on to say by design these chips are now expected to routinely run in the 90s centigrade to eek out every drop of performance, and the intel subreddit forbids all discussion on temps lol. Dont think that was ever going to go down well.
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#46
MarsM4N
No matter how much Intel squeezes out of their chips with extra power & clocks, AMD's X3D chips will still wipe the floor with them in gaming. :laugh: And for half the price & a fraction of power consumption.


Btw. is 1.385 volts a stock voltage for Intel chips?
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#47
RandallFlagg
Well, after reading all those links to the 7800X3D review, I'll just say that it's poorly balanced. When I look at a fairly common resolution for higher end gaming, 1440p, it's a whopping 2.8% faster than a 13900K. And that's if you fork up for a 4090.

By contrast, when you look at most of the productivity scenarios that same 7800X3D is getting walloped by much cheaper CPUs and demolished by similar priced ones. Many situations where the difference is in the vicinity of 20%. And they're not edge cases, java for example a 12700K beats the PBO'd 7800X3D. Java is used all over the place. Any kind of development, database, modelling / science software - this is a chip that often performs alongside Zen 3.

So yeah, if the *only* thing you are concerned with is gaming *and* you have a 4090, then the 7800X3D is an easy win.

But I don't really think there are many people around who actually have that use case. Even hard core gamers like to do other things.

IMO it's not worth it to sacrifice double-digits % performance on multiple productivity use cases to get a paltry 2.8% FPS bump at 1440P with a 4090. These are just one trick pony chips, interesting yes but there's a huge trade-off.
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#48
fevgatos
RandallFlaggWell, after reading all those links to the 7800X3D review, I'll just say that it's poorly balanced. When I look at a fairly common resolution for higher end gaming, 1440p, it's a whopping 2.8% faster than a 13900K. And that's if you fork up for a 4090.

By contrast, when you look at most of the productivity scenarios that same 7800X3D is getting walloped by much cheaper CPUs and demolished by similar priced ones. Many situations where the difference is in the vicinity of 20%. And they're not edge cases, java for example a 12700K beats the PBO'd 7800X3D. Java is used all over the place. Any kind of development, database, modelling / science software - this is a chip that often performs alongside Zen 3.

So yeah, if the *only* thing you are concerned with is gaming *and* you have a 4090, then the 7800X3D is an easy win.

But I don't really think there are many people around who actually have that use case. Even hard core gamers like to do other things.

IMO it's not worth it to sacrifice double-digits % performance on multiple productivity use cases to get a paltry 2.8% FPS bump at 1440P with a 4090. These are just one trick pony chips, interesting yes but there's a huge trade-off.
It's not even faster than a 13900k unless you run them out of the box with XMP. What it does is more efficient in gaming. That's it.
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#49
lexluthermiester
RandallFlaggWell, after reading all those links to the 7800X3D review, I'll just say that it's poorly balanced. When I look at a fairly common resolution for higher end gaming, 1440p, it's a whopping 2.8% faster than a 13900K. And that's if you fork up for a 4090.

By contrast, when you look at most of the productivity scenarios that same 7800X3D is getting walloped by much cheaper CPUs and demolished by similar priced ones. Many situations where the difference is in the vicinity of 20%. And they're not edge cases, java for example a 12700K beats the PBO'd 7800X3D. Java is used all over the place. Any kind of development, database, modelling / science software - this is a chip that often performs alongside Zen 3.

So yeah, if the *only* thing you are concerned with is gaming *and* you have a 4090, then the 7800X3D is an easy win.

But I don't really think there are many people around who actually have that use case. Even hard core gamers like to do other things.

IMO it's not worth it to sacrifice double-digits % performance on multiple productivity use cases to get a paltry 2.8% FPS bump at 1440P with a 4090. These are just one trick pony chips, interesting yes but there's a huge trade-off.
Um, what benchmarks were you looking at?
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/12.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/9.html

And when we look the following, the 7800X3D is king of the hill.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/16.html

The point is, AGAIN, that for someone who already has a 7800X3D, the 14900k is NOT a compelling offering.

For anyone to say otherwise is picking at nits...or fanboying..
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#50
RandallFlagg
lexluthermiesterUm, what benchmarks were you looking at?
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/12.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/9.html

And when we look the following, the 7800X3D is king of the hill.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/16.html

The point is, AGAIN, that for someone who already has a 7800X3D, the 14900k is NOT a compelling offering.

For anyone to say otherwise is picking at nits...or fanboying..
Still working on those (poor) critical thinking skills Lex? Let me help you.

Step 1 would be to actually look at the benchmarks in the articles you link to.

You're welcome.

13900K - more than twice as fast, 13600K 50% faster :


MySQL - 13900K is 40% faster, 13700K is 24% faster :



Java: 13900K is 75% faster, a 13600K is 22% faster.



.Net web hosting - pretty important for someone making\debugging\testing MVC web apps on their PC
13900K is 87.4% faster, 13600K is 21.7% faster :


7-Zip decompress, 13900K is 68.2% faster, 13700K is 27% faster. This one favors AMD, it's even worse with WinRAR.



AES, used almost everywhere, 13900K is 84.4% faster, 13600K is 11% faster :

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