Selayawhile i would fundamentally agree to this i have no hopes that government regulation wouldn't make this shitshow even far worse. brave new world indeed.

cvaldesI'm pretty sure Ilya identifies as male.

It makes one wonder how carefully TPU readers have been following this drama. Admittedly the media has done a piss poor job covering this circus.

It is almost as if this whole episode was written by AI.

:):p:D
:lovetpu:

Gooigi's Exaaaaaaaaaaah yes…i can’t wait for the movie about this to come out. the shit show that was endured definitely was a read and would need a visual. i wonder who would play as sam.

Vayra86Government shares the interests of a healthy and functional society with us, or they rule over a bunch of misfits. So yeah, gov regulation is preferable without any sliver of doubt.
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Vayra86All it truly confirms is one thing; regulate the shit out of these ratholes.
They influence society far too much to go unregulated as they are. We missed the boat with social media, let's not repeat that. We regulate banks as they are critical infrastructure, but the social discourse is far more critical. We need some form of checks and balances here, I don't even know exactly what or how, but it being complicated doesn't mean its not necessary.

Selayawher r u from, utopia????

Government shares the interests of a healthy and functional society [ ... ]

We provide concrete examples of Sam and Greg's dishonesty & manipulation including:

• Sam's demand for researchers to delay reporting progress on specific "secret" research initiatives, which were later dismantled for failing to deliver sufficient results quickly enough. Those who questioned this practice were dismissed as "bad culture fits" and even terminated, some just before Thanksgiving 2019.
• Greg's use of discriminatory language against a gender-transitioning team member. Despite many promises to address this issue, no meaningful action was taken, except for Greg simply avoiding all communication with the affected individual, effectively creating a hostile work environment. This team member was eventually terminated for alleged under-performance.
• Sam directing IT and Operations staff to conduct investigations into employees, including Ilya, without the knowledge or consent of management.
• Sam's discreet, yet routine exploitation of OpenAI's non-profit resources to advance his personal goals, particularly motivated by his grudge against Elon following their falling out.
• The Operations team's tacit acceptance of the special rules that applied to Greg, navigating intricate requirements to avoid being blacklisted.
• Brad Lightcap's unfulfilled promise to make public the documents detailing OpenAI's capped-profit structure and the profit cap for each investor.
• Sam's incongruent promises to research projects for compute quotas, causing internal distrust and infighting.

EternitUnfortunately it is already too late. And with the new board OpenAI is de facto Microsoft subsidiary.

cvaldesI'm pretty sure Ilya identifies as male.

It makes one wonder how carefully TPU readers have been following this drama. Admittedly the media has done a piss poor job covering this circus.

It is almost as if this whole episode was written by AI.

:):p:D
:lovetpu:

DeathtoGnomesI think the headlines and real story should be about the board of directors, who is out not just who is in now leaving Sam Altmans return as a secondary story here.

thesmokingmanThe board did their job though, they tried to protect the mission. Let's not forget MSFT is also a major media company and notice the lack of reporting on why Altman was removed. The narrative is now about how whacked the board was and how much they screwed up when in reality Altman crossed so many lines and the board had had enough. If you dig into Altman, you'll see this isn't the first time he's been straight up fired for being a douche and self serving, y combinator anyone?

thesmokingmanThe board did their job though, they tried to protect the mission. Let's not forget MSFT is also a major media company and notice the lack of reporting on why Altman was removed. The narrative is now about how whacked the board was and how much they screwed up when in reality Altman crossed so many lines and the board had had enough. If you dig into Altman, you'll see this isn't the first time he's been straight up fired for being a douche and self serving, y combinator anyone?

cvaldesThis whole episode illustrates how pathetic tech media journalism has become (not just TechPowerUp).

No one has seriously asked how Altman's firing happened. Sure, he was fired but all the articles basically said "the board" fired him?

Assuming it required a majority, who were the board members who fired Altman? What were their backgrounds? What are their connections with Microsoft? Why did they leave the board? Where are they now? Who selected the new board members? What are their affiliation with Microsoft and Altman?

Somewhere on Sand Hill Road, someone knows all these answers.

Minus InfinityThe whole thing was staged. OpenAI wanted some free publicity and everyone talking about them. No one was fired, no one was walking.

DeathtoGnomesIm gonmna go on alimb here and there was bad blood betwen certain board members and altman that just needed an excuse to fire him. Personalities aside, we will never really know exactly what the conditions were but I will ass-u-me the board members that left was a major role in the ongoing shenanigans. It wouldnt be the first time a CEO was stabbed in the back by board members want to install a more pliable lackey. MS's role is insignificant which is also IMO.


Those are some interesting questions indeed, one more, how long has the conflicts been going on. If it dates back to the beginning we could speculate that it was a firing waiting to happen, for any plausible excuse.


I've got a tin hat you can borrow.