Tuesday, October 31st 2023

Microsoft Windows 11 23H2 Major Update Begins Rolling Out, Bets Big on Generative AI

Microsoft on Tuesday began rolling out Windows 11 23H2, the year's major update to its PC operating system. This release sees a major integration of AI into several features across the OS. To begin with, Microsoft Copilot, which made its debut with 365 and Office, is getting integrated with Windows. Powered by Bing Chat, Copilot is a GPT-based chatbot that not just gathers information from web-search, but can also be made to do a variety of OS level functions. For example, you can ask it to pair a Bluetooth device, or find something on your machine, find stuff within the files of your machine. The WIN+C key now brings up Copilot. Next up, Microsoft Paint gets its biggest feature update, with the generative AI-based Paint Cocreator feature. Not only will Paint assist your brush-strokes, in getting the shapes and contents right, but much like Stable Diffusion and Midjourney, Paint now has a prompt-based image generation feature. For now, Paint Cocreator is being released as a preview feature.

Microsoft Clipchamp, the video editor included with Windows, now has a set of generative AI enhancements of its own, with tools such as Auto Compose, which assists in building a movie with scenes, getting the sequence of clips and transitions right, getting the effects and filters right; and audio features such as narration and background score. Clipchamp also has integration with social platforms including Tik Tok, YouTube, and LinkedIn. Snipping Tool, the screengrab application of Windows, now gets a couple of AI enhancements too, such as scanning an image to extract and redact information. Photos gets AI-accelerated image recognition and categorization. Much like Google Photos, you can look for a picture by describing what you're looking for. As with each such annual major release, Microsoft will be releasing 23H2 in a phased manner through Windows Update, but if you're impatient and want to immediately update, or perform a clean installation, visit the link below.

DOWNLOAD: Windows 11 23H2 (Installation Assistant, Media Creator, ISOs)
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84 Comments on Microsoft Windows 11 23H2 Major Update Begins Rolling Out, Bets Big on Generative AI

#1
GunShot
you can ask it to pair a Bluetooth device, or **find something on your machine**, **find stuff within the files of your machine**.
Nah, this can't be used as a violation (MS, governments, hackers, ect.) on infringing on citizens' privacy without any warnings all in the name - "to help/aid/protect the user(s) from themselves", eh?! :fear:
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#2
Selaya
generative garbage.
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#3
Chry
Is it optional?
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#4
R-T-B
GunShotNah, this can't be used as a violation (MS, governments, hackers, ect.) on infringing on citizens' privacy without any warnings all in the name - "to help/aid/protect the user(s) from themselves", eh?! :fear:
What on earth are you even trying to say here?

It's a chatbot that can do little things like pair your bluetooth thingy to your PC.
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#5
GunShot
R-T-BWhat on earth are you even trying to say here?

It's a chatbot that can do little things like pair your bluetooth thingy to your PC.
Yup! That's all *it* (they) could do. :kookoo:
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#6
R-T-B
GunShotYup! That's all *it* (they) could do. :kookoo:
Do you fear the unknown or something son? I hate to break it to you but there's a lot going on in your PC you don't understand and most of it doesn't care about you.
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#7
Firedrops
When will they bet big on restoring drag-and-drop functionality to move the taskbar?
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#8
ymdhis
ChryIs it optional?
sure, windows 11 as a whole is optional.
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#9
nguyen
Man everyone can create their own meme now with Generative AI :D
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#10
Hyderz
cool! but i dont think i will use it anytime soon, kinda more intrigued about windows 12 tbh
i feel windows 11 is like a testing platform with ai starting integrated into it..
i have a feeling once more ai stuff gets into windows 11 its gonna have some sort of performance impact...
and frankly my systems are aging...
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#11
Shihab
Ah! Yes. Rebrand the (failed?) mess that was Cortana, add more gimmicks, and "integrate" deeper into the OS to have another ready excuse for an imminent subscription, always/periodic-online, and even more intrusive "telemetry" requirements.
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#12
mahirzukic2
R-T-BDo you fear the unknown or something son? I hate to break it to you but there's a lot going on in your PC you don't understand and most of it doesn't care about you.
Everybody (okay, maybe not everybody, but majority of people) fear the unknown. Nothing to be ashamed of.
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#13
FoulOnWhite
Maybe everyone should just use linux, but i guess they use windows out of necessity.

Personally i don't mind win 11 and am already on 23H2
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#14
stimpy88
nguyenMan everyone can create their own meme now with Generative AI :D
Even better news, your first 50 memes are FREEEEEEEEEE!
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#15
Assimilator
This is wholly expected, given Microsoft's big bet on genAI. It's also wholly unwelcome, because there are so many features and niggles in Windows that remain unfixed after years.
mahirzukic2Everybody (okay, maybe not everybody, but majority of people) fear the unknown. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Actually, it is. Fear of the unknown is the primary thing holding humanity back from progressing, it's what leads to bigotry, et cetera.
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#16
bug
GunShotNah, this can't be used as a violation (MS, governments, hackers, ect.) on infringing on citizens' privacy without any warnings all in the name - "to help/aid/protect the user(s) from themselves", eh?! :fear:
No one tell him Microsoft already has admin access to his Windows machine. He might freak out.
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#17
TheDeeGee
Still needs third party tool to enable small taskbar option?
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#18
Chrispy_
The only way I have ever managed to make the start menu work without stupid faults and without it failing to find installed programs, is to detach windows search from the internet via registry.

No Cortana, no online search, no Bing integration.

Then, and only then, the start menu/search box can reliably find stuff on your PC. Too often, Cortana or Bing are interfering with the results and generating gibberish, and that's if Cortana's even working because she breaks sometimes; I cannot recommend anyone ever use either Cortana or Bing search.

"AI" just means more web requests from Bing in the cloud, so no thank you - not with Microsoft's track record of failure to execute.
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#19
Assimilator
Chrispy_The only way I have ever managed to make the start menu work without stupid faults and without it failing to find programs that are installed and have start menu entries, is to detach windows search from the internet via registry.

No Cortana, no online search, no Bing integration.

Then, and only then, the start menu/search box can reliably find stuff on your PC.
The fact that the Start menu needs internet access to work is the most fundamentally stupid decision that Microsoft ever made. I wish the person who came up with that would die in the world's slowest fire.
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#20
Chrispy_
AssimilatorThe fact that the Start menu needs internet access to work is the most fundamentally stupid decision that Microsoft ever made. I wish the person who came up with that would die in the world's slowest fire.
It's there to make money and no other reason. Microsoft didn't care if the start menu generated gibberish for the user, it was always included as a way to harvest user behavioural data.

The fact it's still essentially useless and broken for the user after 8 years of patches and updates is proof that it's not about providing a product to help the user, but about providing user data to help Microsoft.

Case in point - I have a W11 VM that's had no regedits by me and is entirely out-of-the box, the way MS intends it, default firewall and security rules. It has PuTTY on it. The .exe is in the downloads folder. There is a pin on the taskbar to a copy of the file that I put in Program Files x86, I have launched it from all three locations dozens of times.

If I dare to type "putty" into the start menu, the two "best matches" are a Bing result which rudely opens in the Edge, ignoring the FTC and UEC legally-mandated requirement for Microsoft to respect a users choice of browser, and a suggestion to download it (again, in Edge via Bing, not Firefox via DDG) from an unofficial source! Not even the correct web result which is very obviously "putty.org"....

The rest of the start menu search results are filled up with "AI suggestions", including putty knifes for sale, putty pads, where to buy putty locally (with Bing ad affiliate links, no doubt). That's advertising, misuse of my location, and potential junk/erroneous data for paying advertisers that I am now "interested" in various types of modelling putty and craft/DIY products, FFS! Nowhere at all in the "start-your-program-from-this-start-button" button, is the f***ing program I have in multiple, indexed locations on my PC with multiple previous executions and history in my "recent" list. It's a goddamn disgrace!

/rant.
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#21
FoulOnWhite
Chrispy_It's there to make money and no other reason. Microsoft didn't care if the start menu generated gibberish for the user, it was always included as a way to harvest user behavioural data.

The fact it's still essentially useless and broken for the user after 8 years of patches and updates is proof that it's not about providing a product to help the user, but about providing user data to help Microsoft.

Case in point - I have a W11 VM that's had no regedits by me and is entirely out-of-the box, the way MS intends it, default firewall and security rules. It has PuTTY on it. The .exe is in the downloads folder. There is a pin on the taskbar to a copy of the file that I put in Program Files x86, I have launched it from all three locations dozens of times.

If I dare to type "putty" into the start menu, the two "best matches" are a Bing result which rudely opens in the Edge, ignoring the FTC and UEC legally-mandated requirement for Microsoft to respect a users choice of browser, and a suggestion to download it (again, in Edge via Bing, not Firefox via DDG) from an unofficial source! Not even the correct web result which is very obviously "putty.org"....

The rest of the start menu search results are filled up with "AI suggestions", including putty knifes for sale, putty pads, where to buy putty locally (with Bing ad affiliate links, no doubt). That's advertising, misuse of my location, and junk data for advertisers that I am now "interested" in various types of modelling putty and craft/DIY products, FFS! Nowhere at all in the "start your program from this button" button, is the f***ing program I have in multiple, indexed locations on my PC with multiple previous executions and history in my "recent" list. It's a goddamn disgrace!

/rant.
Why does it not search files on the PC for putty, that is dumb. I have never used the search box on my PC tbh though, i keep my PC organised so know where my stuff is. I really don't mind win 11, it's either that or use win 10 which is soon to be defunct, or use linux and there is more chance of me sprouting horns than doing that.
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#22
Chrispy_
FoulOnWhiteWhy does it not search files on the PC for putty, that is dumb. I have never used the search box on my PC tbh though, i keep my PC organised so know where my stuff is. I really don't mind win 11, it's either that or use win 10 which is soon to be defunct, or use linux and there is more chance of me sprouting horns than doing that.
It probably does, but as long as the web-search integration exists, Microsoft ranks those (often useless) web results higher than the local machine index results. I always found it amusing in Windows 10 that the search box couldn't find Windows features like control panel functions if you changed or restricted Microsoft's privacy settings via their own toggles.
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#23
Camm
So much FUD in this thread... Just install Linux already if you're going to tinfoil this much.

For example, the Start Menu works perfectly fine without an internet connection, and prioritises installed apps, settings and local documents before web terms.

If you used W11 on launch and haven't used it since, have another look, its really come quite far since launch with a lot of improvements that I would miss rolling back to 10.
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#24
bug
Chrispy_It probably does, but as long as the web-search integration exists, Microsoft ranks those (often useless) web results higher than the local machine index results. I always found it amusing in Windows 10 that the search box couldn't find Windows features like control panel functions if you changed or restricted Microsoft's privacy settings via their own toggles.
I'm not particularly concerned with privacy (not sending my data to anyone who asks, just not concerned about Google, Microsoft and the likes) and my Win10 install still managed to fail to find Windows Updates, of all things...
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#25
PapaTaipei
So it will scan our photos without our consent? Stalin would be proud.
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