Interesting, I'll be downloading this for my Mac mini at some point soon. I'll create a new non-admin user account, log in and run it from there. No chance in hell I'd use it on my regular login initially.

There are rumors that Apple and OpenAI have inked a deal to bring better AI integration to Apple's upcoming operating systems (to be previewed next month at Apple WWDC). Perhaps that's why they are offering on Macs first.

Give it 2-3 more years, the world economies are going to crash. All these little middle class jobs that everyone knows AI could be doing are going to vanish, and already are.

Maybe if government was competent and offered free degrees in high demand areas only, for anyone, then we might be able to pull ourselves out of the future collapse, but only free for degrees in demand - with strict requirements like keeping a B average the entire time, etc.

give people economic mobility - and the world would be much better off.

www.techspot.com/news/102975-sam-altman-envisions-future-where-universal-basic-income.html

or this could be a thing, I don't know. I wonder if UBI would make it so plumbers and electricians would just quit their jobs and society would deteriorate, or would they be greedy enough to keep wanting more and more money on top of the UBI? let the experimenting begin!

The implication of current, quote, "AI" technologies being interwoven into our current socio-economic system is not a reflection of technicality IMHO.
The baseline isn't the introduction of ChatGPT itself nor the technology underpinning it, as I see it. The baseline is the first step towards AGI (which has been clearly stated by many companies pursuing AGI, including OpenAI). And the end result will be complete integration of multiple systems specifically designed to facilitate specific tasks with reasoning. Defining the reasoning depends on a lot more than just the code or trained LLM. It is coming though. Sooner than we probably care to believe.

The problem as always is bringing the technology to a place in the market(s) with known and unknown application, vying for relevance in every way possible (broad scope, not focused), and essentially dumping it into people's hands and asking them to integrate it how they see fit. Which is to say, nothing out of the ordinary for technology circa 1980 (really picked up steam in the 90's) and onward.

So for the short term, we get this displacement in areas unintended (or perhaps intended by some), we tend to forego the focused vision (it may help some folks but isn't being used nor interacted with by all) and instead deploy broadly, and then down the road patch up the framework that we broke along the way. You can find this application of new technology into society very easily in recent history.

We seem to be wanting to move away from classical forms of living, accustomed to life as it is or was and instead looking forward for ways to make it happen sooner. The problem is that this affects everyone directly but doesn't benefit everyone directly. Due to economic forces and this particular kind of technological transition as a whole, we end up with apps for everything. It's appalling in the short term but in the end once we 'patch up the framework' and the technology matures enough to directly benefit everyone, it'll be a tumultuous road ahead in the short term.

As an example of what I mean - digital currencies via blockchain technology isn't the bees knees - it's the blockchain underlying that presents the real technological breakthrough, but takes eons (in relative implementation) to be institutionalized.

Somehow I don't see AI being able to change bedsheets or scrub toilets anytime in the next couple of years. I'd be all over that. They could fold laundry, put dishes away, weed my garden, take the kitchen scraps bag to the compost bin, wash my car, great.

And AI still doesn't really know how to do anything artistic, like paint, write music, etc. Maybe someday AI will write something as good as Mozart's overture to "Don Giovanni" but I'm not going to hold my breath. It might be able to write filler music for some videogame cutscene.

But for sure, the world isn't going to change in two years. Some things will change more rapidly than others. AI deployment will be ahead of the curve in enterprise situations but AI isn't going to serve you a better grilled chicken sandwich any faster anytime soon.

Could AI pick my fantasy sports team roster? My guess is a handful of clever people are already doing this to their advantage. No reason for them to mention it at this time when they have a competitive advantage. Heh heh.

cvaldesSomehow I don't see AI being able to change bedsheets or scrub toilets anytime in the next couple of years. I'd be all over that. They could fold laundry, put dishes away, weed my garden, take the kitchen scraps bag to the compost bin, great.

And AI still doesn't really know how to do anything artistic, like paint, write music, etc. Maybe someday AI will write something as good as Mozart's overture to "Don Giovanni" but I'm not going to hold my breath. It might be able to write filler music for some videogame cutscene.

But for sure, the world isn't going to change in 2 years.

those jobs aren't the middle class, those jobs you live 4-6 people to a single house cause they don't pay enough.

once the middle class jobs fall the economy falls.

cvaldesSomehow I don't see AI being able to change bedsheets or scrub toilets anytime in the next couple of years. I'd be all over that. They could fold laundry, put dishes away, weed my garden, take the kitchen scraps bag to the compost bin, great.

This is exactly what my post is aiming to highlight. Consider if you will all of recent (say last 5 years) technological advancements (a laundry list there is, IMHO) and you can easily connect dots between them.

Coin-size 50+ year batteries
Extremely small scale nuclear reactors
Propellantless Thrust
Robotics breakthroughs (near endless IIRC, since roughly 2000)
And on and on and on...

Pair them all together and.. voila ... AGI (once reasoning is figured more maturely) will be a real thing.

People will find something else to do. At least right now, people have to tell AI what to do and to double check its accuracy.

You can't just say "do my job for me and text me when you're done so I can stop watching cat videos and go home."

Right now AI is mostly good at speeding up really repetitive online or computer-based tasks.

Space LynxGive it 2-3 more years, the world economies are going to crash. All these little middle class jobs that everyone knows AI could be doing are going to vanish, and already are.

Maybe if government was competent and offered free degrees in high demand areas only, for anyone, then we might be able to pull ourselves out of the future collapse, but only free for degrees in demand - with strict requirements like keeping a B average the entire time, etc.

give people economic mobility - and the world would be much better off.

www.techspot.com/news/102975-sam-altman-envisions-future-where-universal-basic-income.html

or this could be a thing, I don't know. I wonder if UBI would make it so plumbers and electricians would just quit their jobs and society would deteriorate, or would they be greedy enough to keep wanting more and more money on top of the UBI? let the experimenting begin!

Learn to code. ;)

Why_MeLearn to code. ;)

I'm pretty sure some offline closed door models not open to public are going to be doing that perfectly in 2-3 years from now too. It will be 20 AI coders and one irl human coder supervisor.

IBM won't care, they already stated as much that AI will be taking over the workforce, its def coming for most middle class jobs.

Why_MeLearn to code. ;)

No, Jensen says not to:

www.techradar.com/pro/nvidia-ceo-predicts-the-death-of-coding-jensen-huang-says-ai-will-do-the-work-so-kids-dont-need-to-learn

Of course he gains more by selling AI accelerators to companies who want to reduce the number of programmers on their payroll.

:)

This is Apple's trick to get ppl to upgrade their phones, smh. Part of this news is that they are making a deal to put it on their phones necessitating... new chips thus new phones. What a shocker!

Space LynxI'm pretty sure some offline closed door models not open to public are going to be doing that perfectly in 2-3 years from now too. It will be 20 AI coders and one irl human coder supervisor.

IBM won't care, they already stated as much that AI will be taking over the workforce, its def coming for most middle class jobs.

The tech industry is going to be hit the hardest by AI as it's already showing. Some of us call that karma.

Why_MeThe tech industry is going to be hit the hardest by AI as it's already showing. Some of us call that karma.

It's more irony than karma... but I hope we can turn AI into positive... its going to be one hell of a turbulence ride though when it comes to well how does the middle class pay their bills...

see this video here:

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/how-can-we-utilize-artificial-intelligence-to-help-us-be-more-prescient-about-quality-of-life-and-environment.320713/post-5252673

Space LynxI'm pretty sure some offline closed door models not open to public are going to be doing that perfectly in 2-3 years from now too. It will be 20 AI coders and one irl human coder supervisor.

IBM won't care, they already stated as much that AI will be taking over the workforce, its def coming for most middle class jobs.

Oh I'm sure they will care since, most of IBM's profits come from redundant IT services rendered to... middle class workers... Servers to run sites to help middle class people find jobs, payrolls, CRMs, Database analytics, Internet Security, Accoutning.... when AI does everything centrally and for cheaper, the hundreds of thousands of redundant IBM servers that everyone needs won't be needed anymore...

AI, as cool as it is doesn't consume anything - and in order to sell things you need consumers.

phanbueyOh I'm sure they will care since, most of IBM's profits come from redundant IT services rendered to... middle class workers... Servers to run sites to help middle class people find jobs, payrolls, CRMs, Database analytics, Internet Security, Accoutning.... when AI does everything centrally and for cheaper, the hundreds of thousands of redundant IBM servers that everyone needs won't be needed anymore...

AI, as cool as it is doesn't consume anything - and in order to sell things you need consumers.

IBM CEO already announced on 3-4 different occasions AI is coming for IBM jobs. Don't have time to find them all now, but here is first search results. short term greed won't realize what it has done until its too late.

Space LynxIBM CEO already announced on 3-4 different occasions AI is coming for IBM jobs. Don't have time to find them all now, but here is first search results. short term greed won't realize what it has done until its too late.

Yea it's happening, unavoidable in some ways. I think it'll balance out as long as there are millions of Optimus bots or the like bringing us into that age of abundance. Right??

cvaldesNo, Jensen says not to:

www.techradar.com/pro/nvidia-ceo-predicts-the-death-of-coding-jensen-huang-says-ai-will-do-the-work-so-kids-dont-need-to-learn

Of course he gains more by selling AI accelerators to companies who want to reduce the number of programmers on their payroll.

:)

This is great news ^^ I feel for those techies as much as they felt about me and my coworkers when we got laid off in the oil industry and they told us to learn to code.

Why_MeThis is great news ^^ I feel for those techies as much as they felt about me and my coworkers when we got laid off in the oil industry and they told us to learn to code.

the greatest human weakness and flaw is that we generalize way too much.

you know and I know not every single tech person felt that way, feels that way, or will feel that way. and vice versa.

the world is complicated, the ones who make the most noise get the most attention, sadly, and those people are usually asshats, again, sadly.

we need to figure out a way to move forward, to be resilient, that is in-demand jobs need to be free to train and study for.

Space Lynxthe greatest human weakness and flaw is that we generalize way too much.

you know and I know not every single tech person felt that way, feels that way, or will feel that way. and vice versa.

the world is complicated, the ones who make the most noise get the most attention, sadly, and those people are usually asshats, again, sadly.

we need to figure out a way to move forward, to be resilient, that is in-demand jobs need to be free to train and study for.

The tech industries literally pumped tens of millions of dollars in order to screw me and my kind. If I said 80% of the techies were all for that movement I'd probably have guessed low. I hear there's a need for baristas.

Why_MeThe tech industries literally pumped tens of millions of dollars in order to screw me and my kind. If I said 80% of the techies were all for that movement I'd probably have guessed low. I hear there's a need for baristas.

it's very few people who control the flow of money of that size, so you are still over generalizing.

i see the word free in there, wonder how much telemetry they're going to sell to offset that.

Can it be my friend too? ;-)

Tek-CheckCan it be my friend too? ;-)

lol, there was a huge fiasco with that ai sexy friend app. Ah can't remember the name... Replika.

Space Lynxit's very few people who control the flow of money of that size, so you are still over generalizing.

No I'm not. If they couldn't screw us directly they donated and/or voted for the people who could and after we got screwed and lost our jobs they laughed and told us to learn to code. The best part of this is that it was techies who created this AI monster and now they're being eaten by their own creation. Let them experience losing their jobs, homes, etc ...

Cool will be neat to use versions for other OSs later this year.