Sunday, June 2nd 2024
AMD Outs Ryzen 5000XT Processors for Socket AM4, an 8-year Old Socket
AMD Socket AM4 is now an 8-year-old platform, since its debut back in 2016. AMD objectively went above and beyond for this platform, launching processors powered by the original "Zen," the refreshed "Zen+," the "Zen 2," and the Intel-beating "Zen 3" microarchitecture, including 3D V-cache versions of the "Zen 3" that were competitive even with Intel's 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processors in gaming. Those on older processors on AM4 are spoiled for choice with upgrades within the platform, without having to change it, with AMD releasing new processor models every year for the past 8 years. The 2024 launches include the Ryzen 5000XT series.
It's hard to call the Ryzen 5000XT a "series," since there are only two SKUs—the Ryzen 9 5900XT, and the Ryzen 7 5800XT. Neither of the two feature 3D V-cache, but push clock speeds up. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is a 16-core/32-thread part, and is not meant to be confused with the 5900X, which is a 12-core/24-thread part. The 16-core 5900XT comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.80 GHz, which is 100 MHz less than that of the 5950X. It has the same 105 W TDP, and a significantly lower $360 price. The Ryzen 7 5800XT, on the other hand, is an 8-core/16-thread chip with 4.80 GHz maximum boost frequency, compared to the 4.70 GHz of the 5800X, and the same 105 W TDP. It's priced around $260. Both chips include an AMD Wraith Prism RGB cooler that's capable of handling 140 W TDP processors. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is claimed by AMD to offer similar gaming performance to the Intel Core i7-13700K; while the 5800XT is claimed to play games competitively to the Intel Core i5-13600KF. Both chips should be available sometime in July, 2024.
It's hard to call the Ryzen 5000XT a "series," since there are only two SKUs—the Ryzen 9 5900XT, and the Ryzen 7 5800XT. Neither of the two feature 3D V-cache, but push clock speeds up. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is a 16-core/32-thread part, and is not meant to be confused with the 5900X, which is a 12-core/24-thread part. The 16-core 5900XT comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.80 GHz, which is 100 MHz less than that of the 5950X. It has the same 105 W TDP, and a significantly lower $360 price. The Ryzen 7 5800XT, on the other hand, is an 8-core/16-thread chip with 4.80 GHz maximum boost frequency, compared to the 4.70 GHz of the 5800X, and the same 105 W TDP. It's priced around $260. Both chips include an AMD Wraith Prism RGB cooler that's capable of handling 140 W TDP processors. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is claimed by AMD to offer similar gaming performance to the Intel Core i7-13700K; while the 5800XT is claimed to play games competitively to the Intel Core i5-13600KF. Both chips should be available sometime in July, 2024.
213 Comments on AMD Outs Ryzen 5000XT Processors for Socket AM4, an 8-year Old Socket
I feel the way I feel about it, are you going to continue to tell me I shouldn't?
I'm giving them a pass cause usually their CPU marketing is pretty spot on, it's the GPU department that usually drops the ball. HARD.
Calling them out is what makes them do better, they improve, they learn it won't stand. Giving them a pass teaches the opposite.
In the same situation, an i3 12100 is the same 'performance' as a 7800X3D. Yet we know there's a colossal divide in CPU performance between the two.
Showing a CPU benchmark / promo material when the test isn't a CPU test at all, is misleading, and I can not be convinced otherwise.
How does that help anyone make an informed choice as to a potential upgrade? If they did so based on this, they thoroughly got mislead as to the gaming potential of that CPU.
If you think it's an issue, that's your choice. You feel about it however you want to, and so do I. Let's leave it at that, shall we? :)
Edit: Out of the quadrillions of people complaining (I only see you so far), show me one who has any intention of buying any of these CPUs and was misled by the marketing slides.
Did they invesitage the small print, the one not included in these slides and this article at all? Unlikely, based on what you're saying, all the more reason to have informed users bring it to light.
The benchmarks misrepresent the true gaming performance of the CPUs, you're 'but what if' arguments don't alter that at all.
Are you implying that Regular Joe walking into a Microcenter will look at AMD's marketing presentation before buying a CPU? I highly doubt it.
Of course you'll only see me complaining if you ignore all the others, and use just this thread as your single source of evidence, that's not really news. Maybe try other forums and social media? I already mentioned a regular person is who asked and put it on HUB'S radar to even make content about. I doubt you will because you're happy to stick to the narrative you've chosen where you think I'm the only one calling AMD out for this shitty business practise, without trying to find other ways to excuse, diminish or minimise it.
JegsTV for example is someone who shows his work and all of his video's have merit because he doesn't jerk things around. Top notch TechTuber!
CraftComputing is another. And yes, as always, he's Jeff. Not Harold or Kumar...
Dare I say JayzTwoCents as well?
I could keep going, but you're not wrong either. Some of them are just trash. Austin Evans, LTT, HWUB and The Verge are stand-out garbage channels and they're far from alone.Yup, you saw that right. The 5900XT is a lower base clocked, lower turbo clocked version of the 5950X.:rolleyes::shadedshu::kookoo: