Sunday, June 2nd 2024
AMD Outs Ryzen 5000XT Processors for Socket AM4, an 8-year Old Socket
AMD Socket AM4 is now an 8-year-old platform, since its debut back in 2016. AMD objectively went above and beyond for this platform, launching processors powered by the original "Zen," the refreshed "Zen+," the "Zen 2," and the Intel-beating "Zen 3" microarchitecture, including 3D V-cache versions of the "Zen 3" that were competitive even with Intel's 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processors in gaming. Those on older processors on AM4 are spoiled for choice with upgrades within the platform, without having to change it, with AMD releasing new processor models every year for the past 8 years. The 2024 launches include the Ryzen 5000XT series.
It's hard to call the Ryzen 5000XT a "series," since there are only two SKUs—the Ryzen 9 5900XT, and the Ryzen 7 5800XT. Neither of the two feature 3D V-cache, but push clock speeds up. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is a 16-core/32-thread part, and is not meant to be confused with the 5900X, which is a 12-core/24-thread part. The 16-core 5900XT comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.80 GHz, which is 100 MHz less than that of the 5950X. It has the same 105 W TDP, and a significantly lower $360 price. The Ryzen 7 5800XT, on the other hand, is an 8-core/16-thread chip with 4.80 GHz maximum boost frequency, compared to the 4.70 GHz of the 5800X, and the same 105 W TDP. It's priced around $260. Both chips include an AMD Wraith Prism RGB cooler that's capable of handling 140 W TDP processors. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is claimed by AMD to offer similar gaming performance to the Intel Core i7-13700K; while the 5800XT is claimed to play games competitively to the Intel Core i5-13600KF. Both chips should be available sometime in July, 2024.
It's hard to call the Ryzen 5000XT a "series," since there are only two SKUs—the Ryzen 9 5900XT, and the Ryzen 7 5800XT. Neither of the two feature 3D V-cache, but push clock speeds up. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is a 16-core/32-thread part, and is not meant to be confused with the 5900X, which is a 12-core/24-thread part. The 16-core 5900XT comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.80 GHz, which is 100 MHz less than that of the 5950X. It has the same 105 W TDP, and a significantly lower $360 price. The Ryzen 7 5800XT, on the other hand, is an 8-core/16-thread chip with 4.80 GHz maximum boost frequency, compared to the 4.70 GHz of the 5800X, and the same 105 W TDP. It's priced around $260. Both chips include an AMD Wraith Prism RGB cooler that's capable of handling 140 W TDP processors. The Ryzen 9 5900XT is claimed by AMD to offer similar gaming performance to the Intel Core i7-13700K; while the 5800XT is claimed to play games competitively to the Intel Core i5-13600KF. Both chips should be available sometime in July, 2024.
213 Comments on AMD Outs Ryzen 5000XT Processors for Socket AM4, an 8-year Old Socket
In fact, an unfavorable read on the whole situation is that they launched these SKU's specifically to market them this way and have people believe they're a gaming match for Intel 13th gen, which they're not. Perhaps that is the big picture point to some, as it's possible to interpret it very differently, peoples perceptions is their reality.
And I certainly care if the marketing is purposefully and harmfully misleading (the products are misrepresented), which in this case it absolutely is, Even if few people read it and base a purchase off it, it's still harmful to some extent, whether minor or major, to AMD's reputation that they did it, whether everyone decides to agree it is or not.
But perhaps we've both made our respective points and it's best left there.
But this? these slides are absolutely misleading, and if you have any rationale as to why it's not (aside from asserting few will see them), I'm all ears honestly. To me it's blatant.
*When tested on roads limited to 55mph.
This is all a response to directly being asked "how did I come to this conclusion", so I'll wrap this up by just saying again that's how, you have my rationale as to how this damages the reputation and good will they work hard to portray.
You think it's not important, I do, end of discussion..?
To me it looks like 16/32 boosting to 4950 out of the box, and with PBO you get the 5150 of the 5900X
Everyone can make the individual determination on how much they stretch the truth, dangle the carrot etc and whether the product is for you.
I just call out what I see, and this one strikes as particularly bad, showing off a CPU when the scenario is GPU bound, from the company that people seem to love to defend for free. I don't need you to admit it for it to be true, and the reluctance to and to like other posts speaks volumes to me about bias, you even reacted to another one which paraphrases the same thing (below), so maybe it's just because it's me.
Hey look these CPU's are just as fast as undeniably faster ones when you shift the bottleneck away from the CPU entirely!
I think @Super Firm Tofu said it best.Spot on.
These have more cache.. I bet they are binned nice. My 3600XT smoked most 3600s..
The 5800XT is actually a faster clocked 5800X.
So, let's review: 5900XT is a step up from the 5900X with the same number of cores/threads as the 5950X but a lower price. Seems like a winner to me.
www.microcenter.com/product/674524/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-vermeer-34ghz-16-core-am4-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
If I wanted a 5900XT I would watch MC's prices & wait for it to drop closer to the price of a 5900X. It will land in the middle at some point.
If you're going to bring up the massive difference in MSRP between them, let me remind you that the 5950X came out as a flagship all the way back to 2020 in a totally different market state where AMD was the clear winner, hence the much higher MSRP.
So whatever, just carry on whining and buy whatever you want..