Wednesday, August 14th 2024
AMD Ryzen 9000 Zen 5 CPUs Set for Power Boost, AGESA Update Increasing TDP up to 105W
Recent reports suggest that AMD's Zen 5 desktop processors may soon receive a significant power upgrade. The upcoming AGESA 1.2.0.1A Patch A is rumored to increase the default power limits (TDP) from 65 W to 105 W for certain models, specifically the 8-core Ryzen 7 9700X and the 6-core Ryzen 5 9600X. This development comes as a surprise given that the first reviews of the Ryzen 9000 series were published just last week, with lower power consumption praised as a major advantage over previous generations. The potential TDP increase, while not as high as the 120 W initially rumored for the 9700X, still represents a substantial boost in power allocation.
The rationale behind this significant TDP increase appears to be addressing the lower than expected performance of the Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X compared to their predecessors. Initial testing showed that both CPUs performed similarly to earlier models, especially in gaming scenarios, with notable improvements only visible when using Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). Even at 65 W, the Ryzen 7 9700X struggled to outpace the 7800X3D in gaming performance, highlighting the need for improved power delivery.While users prioritizing efficiency can still opt for the default 65 W TDP mode, those seeking higher performance will have access to the new 105 W TDP mode. The performance gains from this update remain to be seen, but given the substantial increase in power allocation, expectations are high for noticeable improvements. A 105 W TDP is expected to allow the chips to reach up to 142 W in terms of Package Power Tracking (PPT).
It's worth noting that AMD has not officially confirmed these changes, and it's unclear whether they will be included in the final BIOS release. The new TDP update is expected to be provided in the official, non-beta release of the AGESA 1.2.0.1A Patch A BIOS for all AM5 motherboards.
Source:
Wccftech
The rationale behind this significant TDP increase appears to be addressing the lower than expected performance of the Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X compared to their predecessors. Initial testing showed that both CPUs performed similarly to earlier models, especially in gaming scenarios, with notable improvements only visible when using Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). Even at 65 W, the Ryzen 7 9700X struggled to outpace the 7800X3D in gaming performance, highlighting the need for improved power delivery.While users prioritizing efficiency can still opt for the default 65 W TDP mode, those seeking higher performance will have access to the new 105 W TDP mode. The performance gains from this update remain to be seen, but given the substantial increase in power allocation, expectations are high for noticeable improvements. A 105 W TDP is expected to allow the chips to reach up to 142 W in terms of Package Power Tracking (PPT).
It's worth noting that AMD has not officially confirmed these changes, and it's unclear whether they will be included in the final BIOS release. The new TDP update is expected to be provided in the official, non-beta release of the AGESA 1.2.0.1A Patch A BIOS for all AM5 motherboards.
51 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9000 Zen 5 CPUs Set for Power Boost, AGESA Update Increasing TDP up to 105W
i just dont have a lot of expectaction
Even the Ryzen 7500F is available as MPK, aka multipack, version that comes with a stock cooler for system integrators without fancy packaging. Although those are hard to find over here in Europe, and are usually more expensive than the 7600 boxed version. You guys are aware that the 65W parts are mostly intended for cheap OEM gaming PCs and office PCs? Dell even sticks cost-optimized coolers with LGA 1700 mounting brackets onto some of their proprietary AM5 motherboards. :fear:
The number of DIY buyers for these CPUs seem to be a tiny minority, judging from data points like those infamous Mindfactory sales numbers, or the fact that I bought a boxed 7700 with perfect seal and all that stuff about 18 months after they were released, and its batch number indicated a manufacturing week even before launch!
While I wouldn't be too surprised about AMD's marketing department screwing this train wreck of a product launch even more up, I really doubt that they fancy releasing more 65W SKUs for OEMs at a later date.
Maybe we see a R7 9800X with a 95W or 105W TDP, but that seems only likely, if the X3D parts come later next year, or the drama queens on YouTube don't move to the next thing quickly.
This just made the 9600X interesting to me and I'm still on Ryzen 3000.
As it stands, I do NOT need much CPU for this and that.
Anything server duty goes straight to my AM2 chips.
If I need to render or encode something from my FX-8370, it can obviously go MUCH faster on my Ryzen 3600 at single thread.
105W sounds like a barrier lift from the usual 88W ceiling that I've consistently seen from these 65W parts.
Given my instant choice of water cooling, I can take it.
With 105W, they'll likely boost the performance noticeably, but they'll "kill" the efficiency.
These parts can gain up to 20% but it takes 80-90% more power so it's not justified imho.