Wednesday, September 25th 2024
AMD Rushing in Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Expect Product Launch Late-October
Facing poor sales of its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processors, and with the spectre of Intel's Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" looming, AMD is rumored to have given its desktop processor roadmap a shakedown. The company is working to rush in at least one of the three upcoming Ryzen 9000X3D series processor SKUs. The Ryzen 7 9800X3D is a successor to the popular Ryzen 7 7800X3D. It pairs the new "Zen 5" microarchitecture with 3D V-cache technology to boost gaming performance. AMD is allegedly rushing the 9800X3D for a late-October launch. If this chip meets its performance targets (of around 15-20% over the 9700X), then AMD hopes it could take the edge off Intel's Core Ultra 200-series.
Launch of a Ryzen 9000X3D series product-stack became inevitable when AMD confirmed that the "Zen 5" CCD has silicon-level preparation for 3D V-cache (such as TSVs over the region with the on-die L3 cache that interface with the stacked L3D silicon), however, it was expected that the non-X3D Ryzen 9000 series, such as the 9700X, would perform close to the 7800X3D in games, giving AMD room to launch the 9800X3D in Q1-2025. Prior to the 7800X3D and Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake," the Ryzen 7 7700X nearly matched the gaming performance of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and so something similar was expected of the 9700X. Of course things didn't go to plan, the 9700X fell significantly short of the 7800X3D in gaming, resulting in mixed reviews and low sales.
The 9800X3D won't be the only chip from the 9000X3D series, there are also the Ryzen 9 9900X3D and new flagship 9950X3D planned, however, zhangzhonghao, the user behind this leak, says that the dual-CCD processors will do something different to the 7900X3D and 7950X3D to attract the class of buyers that wants both flagship gaming performance and productivity performance competitive to the Core Ultra 9 285K. The user did not elaborate on what these "new features" are, but if we were to guess, it's likely that both CCDs on the processor get 3D V-cache. The 9900X3D and 9950X3D are on-track for a Q1-2025 release.
Sources:
harukaze5719 (Twitter), zhangzhonghao (ChipHell forums), VideoCardz
Launch of a Ryzen 9000X3D series product-stack became inevitable when AMD confirmed that the "Zen 5" CCD has silicon-level preparation for 3D V-cache (such as TSVs over the region with the on-die L3 cache that interface with the stacked L3D silicon), however, it was expected that the non-X3D Ryzen 9000 series, such as the 9700X, would perform close to the 7800X3D in games, giving AMD room to launch the 9800X3D in Q1-2025. Prior to the 7800X3D and Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake," the Ryzen 7 7700X nearly matched the gaming performance of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and so something similar was expected of the 9700X. Of course things didn't go to plan, the 9700X fell significantly short of the 7800X3D in gaming, resulting in mixed reviews and low sales.
117 Comments on AMD Rushing in Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Expect Product Launch Late-October
Not blaming you directly but this is the BS that Zen 5 went against.
Zen 5 ran very well on Linux, hence showing that something was wrong on Windows yet everyone ignored that and blamed only AMD.
For almost 3 gens now, AMD has made it clear that the gaming CPU's are the X3D variants.
Hell, most of the current crop of influencers (formerly known as reviewers) didn't even bother in comparing the first Zen 5 CPU against the non X3D ones or bothered in mentioning that the MSRP was lower.
I do blame AMD for not launching the CPUs with the companion chipsets and to a point, using gaming benchmarks when it shouldn't be the main point.Nah, Intel is as usual bribing the influencers to over hype Intel AND trash AMD.
AMD marketing team needs to do some drastic changes, because the influencers are winning.
Drop the 9800X3D and show us what the other models can do at the same time, that's a whole lot better than no 9000X3D at all this year.That makes sense tho.
Now I'm not saying Zen5 is bad. I think it's great for handhelds and the improvements in perf/watt are almost certainly going to help with future consoles. It's just they're not great for end users and combine that with x3D coming "soon" and you have to wonder why AMD would be surprised no one bought it? I'd have been shocked if people had bought in.
So pricing isn't the biggest factor becuase 3000/2000 was really cheap at the launch of 5000 series.
I honestly think 7000 series would be remembered more fondly if it wasn't for the really high platform cost and boot issues on some boards at launch I mean till this day wiz can't get 6000 CL30 mem working on his board apparently.... I've actually never used a single board that didn't support it at 3000/3000/2000 so not sure what's up with that but still he's way more savvy with hardware and uses way more configurations than me so it is what it is.
For applications it's usually more black and white though.