Wednesday, September 25th 2024
AMD Rushing in Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Expect Product Launch Late-October
Facing poor sales of its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processors, and with the spectre of Intel's Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" looming, AMD is rumored to have given its desktop processor roadmap a shakedown. The company is working to rush in at least one of the three upcoming Ryzen 9000X3D series processor SKUs. The Ryzen 7 9800X3D is a successor to the popular Ryzen 7 7800X3D. It pairs the new "Zen 5" microarchitecture with 3D V-cache technology to boost gaming performance. AMD is allegedly rushing the 9800X3D for a late-October launch. If this chip meets its performance targets (of around 15-20% over the 9700X), then AMD hopes it could take the edge off Intel's Core Ultra 200-series.
Launch of a Ryzen 9000X3D series product-stack became inevitable when AMD confirmed that the "Zen 5" CCD has silicon-level preparation for 3D V-cache (such as TSVs over the region with the on-die L3 cache that interface with the stacked L3D silicon), however, it was expected that the non-X3D Ryzen 9000 series, such as the 9700X, would perform close to the 7800X3D in games, giving AMD room to launch the 9800X3D in Q1-2025. Prior to the 7800X3D and Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake," the Ryzen 7 7700X nearly matched the gaming performance of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and so something similar was expected of the 9700X. Of course things didn't go to plan, the 9700X fell significantly short of the 7800X3D in gaming, resulting in mixed reviews and low sales.
The 9800X3D won't be the only chip from the 9000X3D series, there are also the Ryzen 9 9900X3D and new flagship 9950X3D planned, however, zhangzhonghao, the user behind this leak, says that the dual-CCD processors will do something different to the 7900X3D and 7950X3D to attract the class of buyers that wants both flagship gaming performance and productivity performance competitive to the Core Ultra 9 285K. The user did not elaborate on what these "new features" are, but if we were to guess, it's likely that both CCDs on the processor get 3D V-cache. The 9900X3D and 9950X3D are on-track for a Q1-2025 release.
Sources:
harukaze5719 (Twitter), zhangzhonghao (ChipHell forums), VideoCardz
Launch of a Ryzen 9000X3D series product-stack became inevitable when AMD confirmed that the "Zen 5" CCD has silicon-level preparation for 3D V-cache (such as TSVs over the region with the on-die L3 cache that interface with the stacked L3D silicon), however, it was expected that the non-X3D Ryzen 9000 series, such as the 9700X, would perform close to the 7800X3D in games, giving AMD room to launch the 9800X3D in Q1-2025. Prior to the 7800X3D and Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake," the Ryzen 7 7700X nearly matched the gaming performance of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and so something similar was expected of the 9700X. Of course things didn't go to plan, the 9700X fell significantly short of the 7800X3D in gaming, resulting in mixed reviews and low sales.
107 Comments on AMD Rushing in Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Expect Product Launch Late-October
I don't know anything about the cons of using a 5C chiplet, besides having half of L3.
Another idea is that they'll have the normal X3D CCD and then the second CCD will be all Zen 5c yoinked from an Epyc production line. That would offer both the gaming perf and the 'productivity performance' in a similar philosophy to Intel dumping E-cores into their chip lineups.
Why would anyone care to update their PC if its clear and present that some windows patches can boost the cpu half the way of a new platform?
People are doing it manually with process lasso, AMD is semi doing it with xbox game bar.
Just make a pure gaming profile in your driver that strictly does process affinity for 3D chips.
This is a good move though, if they sat around and did nothing they would get crushed by arrow lake sales.
AMD: "Hey we fixed our driver, which we should have done in time for the last launch two years ago."
That driver would most likely work with 7900X3D and 7950X3D as well, which means the new models doesn't differ in thet regard in ANY WAY from older models. :roll:
Nope.
Do you even remember how much shit AMD got for releasing the more expensive models first the last time? A whopping 43 days or so. People said they tried to milk impatient customers.
Again though, they blundered the release of Zen 5 by not releasing this first alongside the normal Zen 5 chips, While AMD's engineers deserve all the praise for their great work, AMD's marketing team deserve to get fired with the constant blunders.Better to wait until both of them release lol, it highly depends on what games you play and whether these games benefit more from extra cache or from higher clocks. I would be more wary of Intel though because the way they handled the 13th gen/14th gen burnouts was just scummy if you care about proper warranty support.I don't recall people getting angry at AMD for releasing the more expensive models first, don't they release all Skus at once? Unless my memory is failing me.
Also considering how little the uplift in performance of the Zen 5 chips was over Zen 4 at least for gaming, it would have made way more sense to release the Zen 5 X3D chips alongside the normal Zen 5 ones at the time.