Tuesday, October 8th 2024
Intel's Core Ultra 9 285K Performance Claims Leaked, Doesn't Beat i9-14900K at Gaming
The Chinese tech press is abuzz with slides allegedly from Intel's pre-launch press-deck for the Core Ultra 2-series "Arrow Lake-S." The most sensational of these are Intel's first-party performance claims for the top Core Ultra 9 285K model. There's good news and bad news. Good news first—Intel claims to have made a big leap in energy efficiency with "Arrow Lake," and the 285K should offer gaming performance comparable to the current Core i9-14900K at around 80 W lower power draw for the processor. But then there in lies the bad news—despite claimed IPC gains for the "Lion Cove" P-core, and rumored clock speeds being on par with the "Raptor Cove" P-cores on the i9-14900K, the 285K is barely any faster than its predecessor in absolute terms.
In its first party testing, when averaged across 12 game tests, which we used Google optical translation to make out the titles of, Intel used performance numbers of the i9-14900K as the mean. The 285K beats the i9-14900K in only four games—Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2, Age of Mythology Retold, Civilization VI: Gathering Storm, and F1 23. It's on-par with the i9-14900K in Red Dead Redemption 2, Total War: Pharaoh, Metro Exodus, Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth: Wukong, Rainbow Six Siege. It's slower than the i9-14900K in Far Cry 6, FF XIV, F1 24, Red Dead Redemption 2. Averaged across this bench, the Core Ultra 9 285K ends up roughly on par with the Core i9-14900K in gaming. Intel also compared the 285K to AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X, and interestingly, even the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.The Ryzen 9 7950X3D isn't AMD's fastest gaming processor (which is the 7800X3D), but Intel chose this so it could compare the 285K across both gaming and productivity workloads. The 285K is shown being significantly slower than the 7950X3D in Far Cry 6 and Cyberpunk 2077. It's on par in Assassin's Creed Shadows and CIV 6 Gathering Storm. It only gets ahead in Rainbow Six Siege. Then there's the all important comparison with the current AMD flagship, the Ryzen 9 9950X "Zen 5." The 9950X is shown being on-par or beating the 285K in 8 out of 12 game tests. And the 9950X is the regular version of "Zen 5," without the 3D V-cache.
All is not doom and gloom for the Core Ultra 9 285K, the significant IPC gains Intel made for the "Skymont" E-cores means that the 285K gets significantly ahead of the 7950X3D in multithreaded productivity workloads, as shown with Geekbench 4.3, Cinebench 2024, and POV-Ray.
Sources:
VideoCardz, Wxnod (Twitter)
In its first party testing, when averaged across 12 game tests, which we used Google optical translation to make out the titles of, Intel used performance numbers of the i9-14900K as the mean. The 285K beats the i9-14900K in only four games—Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2, Age of Mythology Retold, Civilization VI: Gathering Storm, and F1 23. It's on-par with the i9-14900K in Red Dead Redemption 2, Total War: Pharaoh, Metro Exodus, Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth: Wukong, Rainbow Six Siege. It's slower than the i9-14900K in Far Cry 6, FF XIV, F1 24, Red Dead Redemption 2. Averaged across this bench, the Core Ultra 9 285K ends up roughly on par with the Core i9-14900K in gaming. Intel also compared the 285K to AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X, and interestingly, even the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.The Ryzen 9 7950X3D isn't AMD's fastest gaming processor (which is the 7800X3D), but Intel chose this so it could compare the 285K across both gaming and productivity workloads. The 285K is shown being significantly slower than the 7950X3D in Far Cry 6 and Cyberpunk 2077. It's on par in Assassin's Creed Shadows and CIV 6 Gathering Storm. It only gets ahead in Rainbow Six Siege. Then there's the all important comparison with the current AMD flagship, the Ryzen 9 9950X "Zen 5." The 9950X is shown being on-par or beating the 285K in 8 out of 12 game tests. And the 9950X is the regular version of "Zen 5," without the 3D V-cache.
All is not doom and gloom for the Core Ultra 9 285K, the significant IPC gains Intel made for the "Skymont" E-cores means that the 285K gets significantly ahead of the 7950X3D in multithreaded productivity workloads, as shown with Geekbench 4.3, Cinebench 2024, and POV-Ray.
114 Comments on Intel's Core Ultra 9 285K Performance Claims Leaked, Doesn't Beat i9-14900K at Gaming
Let's wait for the reviews, I guess it's in two weeks with a preview today.
It probably includes some of the fixes for the crashing issues but idk which ones.
Where did you get 529 W from?
The numbers in OP are AVERAGE from multiple games, I translated the three characters before "FPS". Possibly all 14 games but who knows..
7800X3D at 477 W is for Starfield only, while the lowest in that review is 358 W.
The 14900K system draws 527 - 447 = 80 W more than a 285K system in games according to Intel.
The 14900K CPU draws 144 W in games (TPU).
My guess is that the 285K draws 144 - 80 = 64 W in games. Yup, full of flaws! :roll:
Sandy Bridge could have easily been i7-260K, i5-250K, i3-210 ...etc. were it not for Nehalem's precedent.
Core i9 2850K OK
Core
iUltra 9 2850K Oh no the change of an arbitrary marketing letter to an arbitrary marketing word and the loss of a useless zero has destroyed legibility for mePlease.
Also they didn't include a 290OK so obviously this isn't as high end as the 1490OK
I give no rat's patoot about the number. 285K and 15900K are both equally legit for me, albeit the latter is much less confusing for average Joes.
I give no rat's patoot about the legibility. If an X dollar SKU provides much more value than an X dollar SKU from the previous gen then I'm fine with that. No matter the name.
It's just renaming from short and sound "i" to a longer and ridiculed "Ultra" shares the same vibes with using trollfaces and nyan cats in ads of 2024. The age of this word ended very long ago.
My next upgrade will either be Zen 6/7/8 X3D (depending on the value they'll represent), or Intel Bartlett Lake, if rumours are true and it's still in the making (which I'm starting to doubt). I have no interest other than a mild curiosity in these overly complicated, e/p-core, multi-chip CPUs.
I never thought it would be at this level tho. The real reviews will be interesting.
videocardz.com/pixel/unlocked-intel-core-ultra-9-285k-approaches-370w-power-draw-during-cinebench-test
Spicy. That min on 14700K in Guardians is confusing, not really trustworthy. Or just a typo, should maybe be 136 instead of 36, but then again how are you supposed to believe the Arrow numbers lol