Monday, January 13th 2025

Intel "Bartlett Lake" Appears as a P/E-Core Hybrid, P-Core Only CPUs Could Soon Follow

Intel has launched its first wave of Bartlett Lake processors, introducing hybrid-core models specifically designed for embedded systems, with pure performance-core (P-core) variants scheduled to follow later. The initial release, unveiled at CES, showcases the processors through congatec's new COM-HPC modules. The flagship Core 7 251E leads the embedded lineup with 24 cores (8P + 16E) and impressive clock speeds reaching 5.6 GHz boost. Intel claims this processor outperforms the i7-14700 by 6% in single-core and 8% in multi-core benchmarks, despite maintaining a modest 65 W TDP. The series also includes the Core 5 211E with 10 cores (6P + 4E) and the Core 3 201E featuring 4 P-cores. However, the more intriguing development lies ahead.

Earlier sources indicate that Intel plans to release pure P-core variants of Bartlett Lake in Q3 2025, targeting desktop users. These processors will introduce a more traditional approach by replacing E-core clusters with additional P-cores, resulting in configurations of up to 12 P-cores in the upcoming Core 9 series. The pure P-core models will maintain compatibility with existing LGA1700 motherboards, potentially offering an attractive upgrade path for current Intel platform users. The lineup is expected to include 8-core, 10-core, and 12-core variants under the Core 5, 7, and 9 brands respectively, with TDP options ranging from 45 W to 125 W. While the current embedded models focus on specialized applications like medical imaging and edge computing, the future P-core variants seem positioned to appeal to gamers. The processors are expected to utilize Raptor Cove cores, though rumors suggest Intel might consider backporting Lion Cove architecture to the platform.
Sources: congatec, via Tom's Hardware
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59 Comments on Intel "Bartlett Lake" Appears as a P/E-Core Hybrid, P-Core Only CPUs Could Soon Follow

#1
JustBenching
Q3 2025 for pure pcores. That's too freaking late.

But nice upgradability for lga1700, 2021 to 2026.
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#3
AleksandarK
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kondaminInnovative?
In regards to the current hybrid setup. But nonetheless fixed to remove confusion.
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#4
Outback Bronze
AleksandarKThe pure P-core models will maintain compatibility with existing LGA1700 motherboards, potentially offering an attractive upgrade path for current Intel platform users.
Cool. 1700 not quite dead yet. Will be interesting how the power consumption goes with no E's and an OC involved with the extra P's.
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#5
dismuter
If that's still 10nm / "Intel 7", it's embarrassing.
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#6
kondamin
dismuterIf that's still 10nm / "Intel 7", it's embarrassing.
If it works it works, considering that other story of the 9.2ghz oc of that 14 gen a bit earlier 10nm is still good .

id like to see them port over a chip based on skymont instead of lion cove.
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#7
Dr. Dro
I will purchase a 12 P-core Core 9 chip for my Apex Encore if these come by.
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#8
Outback Bronze
Dr. DroI will purchase a 12 P-core Core 9 chip for my Apex Encore if these come by.
Yeah, nothing wrong with 1700 atm. 1851 is very meh for gaming..

I'll link this vid from another thread I posted. Raptor can go with 9800X3D - Core Ultra... Forget it atm..

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#9
JustBenching
Outback BronzeYeah, nothing wrong with 1700 atm. 1851 is very meh for gaming..

I'll link this vid from another thread I posted. Raptor can go with 9800X3D - Core Ultra... Forget it atm..

With mem tuning on both they should be pretty equal. The 3d doesn't scale that much with memory, around 11-14% is what I got out of it at 6400c28.

For context the 12900k got around 34% by memory tuning in ratchet and clank, lol.
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#10
Upgrayedd
Will the P core variants work in Z890 as well? Or just Z790? I'm confused.
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#11
Dr. Dro
UpgrayeddWill the P core variants work in Z890 as well? Or just Z790? I'm confused.
Bartlett Lake is being marketed as "non-Ultra", which should translate to the previous generation architecture. These should be Raptor Cove (13th Gen) architecture models, so they will run on the same socket and chipsets as the i9-13900K and its "14th Gen" rebrands. It is very unlikely Intel will release a "Bartlett Point" chipset to accompany these chips, especially since Z690 and Z790 should already be compatible with it.

Perhaps they could upgrade the UHD 770 to a Xe² from LNL? Though that might be asking too much, this design was likely floorplanned and built alongside the 8+16 chips. If anything, I am buying the KF model this time anyway... unless it's the same price, I mean. My motherboard does not support graphics.
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#12
wNotyarD
Dr. DroPerhaps they could upgrade the UHD 770 to a Xe² from LNL? Though that might be asking too much, this design was likely floorplanned and built alongside the 8+16 chips. If anything, I am buying the KF model this time anyway... unless it's the same price, I mean. My motherboard does not support graphics.
Only if no Bartlett KS model is made, right?
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#13
Darmok N Jalad
Seems strange to go back to the previous generation and socket again. I get selling what works, but it doesn't exactly show a lot of confidence in their current generation. That's especially true since Arrow Lake S is a significant design departure (tiles, no HT, NPU). I guess these do keep Intel fabs producing something marketable.
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#14
Dr. Dro
wNotyarDOnly if no Bartlett KS model is made, right?
Does not make sense to release a special edition of a secondary line, which is what this will be
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#15
Lycanwolfen
Intel need to get back to work. Need a 16 core monster low power multithreaded. AMD well that 9950X3D going to be king for long time.
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#16
AusWolf
JustBenchingQ3 2025 for pure pcores. That's too freaking late.

But nice upgradability for lga1700, 2021 to 2026.
Agreed. I would have loved to get my hands on a pure 12 p-core Intel chip a couple years ago, but now, I'm happy with the 7800X3D.
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#17
ratirt
Hmm, Interesting development. No ecores huh. I'm guessing the p-e cores hybrid is not that exquisite and great since Intel is going back to pcores only, with a core bump.
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#18
kondamin
LycanwolfenIntel need to get back to work. Need a 16 core monster low power multithreaded. AMD well that 9950X3D going to be king for long time.
As I wrote a 10nm port of skymont would be interesting. 16 cores double the cache and you have a small chip that's cheap to make and is easy on the power.
No brainer for office/web machines
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#19
wNotyarD
Dr. DroDoes not make sense to release a special edition of a secondary line, which is what this will be
Second thought that BTL is, it will be funny as heck if it smashes ARL. And if it performs and sells well, Intel may actually make a KS just for bragging rights.
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#20
AusWolf
ratirtHmm, Interesting development. No ecores huh. I'm guessing the p-e cores hybrid is not that exquisite and great since Intel is going back to pcores only, with a core bump.
My only question is, why now? I would have been interested in getting one in LGA-1700's heydays, but now is a bit too late.
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#21
JustBenching
AusWolfMy only question is, why now? I would have been interested in getting one in LGA-1700's heydays, but now is a bit too late.
It's still "heyday". There is nothing thats really faster on a per core basis yet.
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#23
AusWolf
JustBenchingIt's still "heyday". There is nothing thats really faster on a per core basis yet.
Yeah, but I've already got something else, like the vast majority of people interested in Bartlett Lake, I assume.
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#24
JustBenching
AusWolfYeah, but I've already got something else, like the vast majority of people interested in Bartlett Lake, I assume.
Well although I'm not personally interested on a non ecore intel cpu, I can see that a lot of people would be highly interested simply because there is no other cpu like it. There is an alarming absence of a chip with over 8 big cores that aren't separated by an ocean. Literally, there are none. You either have to go with ecores or split CCDs
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#25
AusWolf
JustBenchingWell although I'm not personally interested on a non ecore intel cpu, I can see that a lot of people would be highly interested simply because there is no other cpu like it. There is an alarming absence of a chip with over 8 big cores that aren't separated by an ocean. Literally, there are none. You either have to go with ecores or split CCDs
Exactly. If Intel had released the pure 12 p-core variant before I got my 7800X3D, I would have jumped on one.
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