Why is AMD keeping K10 so under wraps, I remember before Conroe they were releasing benchmarks.

Swarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

O........k....? ^^

InfDamarvelSwarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

Per forum rules please fill out your hardware config in system specs in your controle panel or put them in a signature;)thnx!
EDIT>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^my mistake there is no such rule..srry.

InfDamarvelSwarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

lol dont be a muppit

if there would be only a slight improvement if upgrading from ur current cpu to this, then wed go for a phenom :rolleyes:

Reguardless. Im holding out to see the colour of the Phenoms before I decide weather or not to clip my AMD ties & head for Intel C2d's skies.

I dont think my O/c'd X2 3800+ will be able to put up much of a fight when that time arrives. even now its kinda feeling its age. but I dont have the funds right now to carry out a full on overhaul & this system is less the a year old anyhoo

Well the difference is the 6400+ is going to oc better than a 6000+ because it's a better quality bined chip and uses 89w to the 6000+ current 125w, which means less heat. I bet it will do 3.6ghz on air and if you have a 3800x2 to 4800x2 Windsor and need a upgrade that would be a giant one. A 6400+ will be very competative to the the current core 2 duos excluding the e6850. It should match up with a e6700 e6750. Don't get me wrong it will be slower just not that much real world difference.

trt740Well the difference is the 6400+ is going to oc better than a 6000+ because it's a better quality bined chip and uses 89w to the 6000+ current 125w, which means less heat. I bet it will do 3.6ghz on air and if you have a 3800x2 to 4800x2 Windsor and need a upgrade that would be a giant one. A 6400+ will be very competative to the the current core 2 duos excluding the e6850. It should match up with a e6700 e6750. Don't get me wrong it will be slower just not that much real world difference.

you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850 :rockout:
just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850 :D

And AMD chips in your hand feel like gold while Intel's feel like um... cheap aluminum.

If they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

kwchang007Why is AMD keeping K10 so under wraps, I remember before Conroe they were releasing benchmarks.

newbielivesIf they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

That's what I'd think, but if they didn't have a good product, they'd also be hitting hard on the adverts about things like htt where Intel can't touch them, like in the 2+ server board segment. Idk....it was the same with the 2900xt, there weren't benchmarks before it was very close to being released. Maybe it's AMD's new stance.

newbielivesIf they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

Apple brags about ipod improvements too.

left, right, up down.

and they dominate the market right?

Companys aren't 5 year olds trying to hide info 100% of the time.

I still wait for the day anxiously when an AMD chip is in the No1 spot in both the Sceincemark and SuperPi threads :toast: I fear however that at least for the SuperPI....that may be a while off yet.

DRDNAPer forum rules please fill out your hardware config in system specs in your controle panel or put them in a signature;)thnx!

There is no rule that you HAVE to have your system specs listed, in fact there is even an option to not show it even if it is filled out.

a111087you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850 :rockout:
just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850 :D

Where was this review?

you forgot to add this chip has 2X2mb cache and not 2x1MB like the 6000+ hence jumping up to 6400 and not 6200 ;)

this should oc well i wanna see a new AMD WR on these chips


oh and the slight improvment comment what improvement did you see from 1066mhz FSB to 1333MHZ FSB? intel :shadedshu AMD is keeping up even with old chips 6400+ e6850 hmmmm well if you already have a sAM2 board the cost to upgrade is minimal. now the intel side you have a s775mobo oh wait it wont work cause intel locked the chips out of working on it ;) never heard of AMD making a BS stunt like that and intels been doing it since before s370 remember i810? or s423 anyone have one of the 3 chips released on that b4 the change to s478 like 10mins later :roll:

cdawall... oh wait it wont work cause intel locked the chips out...

Yeah... :mad: I was trying to see if my friend could have a E4300 or even a Q6600 in his i925X motherboard, but NOOOOOOO! Stooopid Intel. He doesn't need a new mobo. >:( Don't think the Core 2 line supports DDR anyroad.*

* - DDR1 folks.

InnocentCriminalWhere was this review?

www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=842214&tp=AMD-A64X2-6400&rid=842214
enjoy :cool:

Excellent! Cheers dude.

InnocentCriminalYeah... :mad: I was trying to see if my friend could have a E4300 or even a Q6600 in his i925X motherboard, but NOOOOOOO! Stooopid Intel. He doesn't need a new mobo. >:( Don't think the Core 2 line supports DDR anyroad.*

* - DDR1 folks.

no they do you can have them on the VIA chipped P4M800 stuff

Oh right... shame he doesn't have a P4M800 chipset. :(

thats a big jum and amds highest clock chip yet. I want one

a111087you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850 :rockout:
just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850 :D

What do you mean I'm actually right that a left handed complement If I ever heard one.

Here is the english short translation Posted by: Chris_Tom on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:41 PM

HKEPC Hardware has reviewed the Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition. It comes boxed, through the channel only, but without a heatsink. That saves on shipping costs I'm sure. Anyway, it appears to be about 2% to 12% faster than the 6000+, and it may just best the E6750, but not the E6850.

I would have thought he (Chris Tom) would be referring to the 6400+ at stock, with a OC such as a111087 has suggest might bring it on par with one. That's how I've read it anyroad.

InnocentCriminalI would have thought he (Chris Tom) would be referring to the 6400+ at stock, with a OC such as a111087 has suggest might bring it on par with one. That's how I've read it anyroad.

He is talking about a 6400+ at stock.