mac, linux, windows........ there all floored :p

"flawed".

And at 27.4 MB, thats quite a BIG patch!

Does Apple OS have an automatic "update" system like windows update, or does every mac user need to do a manual download and patch installation?

Because if the second... oh dear... all those poor "alternative" people not knowing about it... and even if they did... not knowing how to do it!

Completely Bonkers"flawed".

And at 27.4 MB, thats quite a BIG patch!

Does Apple OS have an automatic "update" system like windows update, or does every mac user need to do a manual download and patch installation?

Because if the second... oh dear... all those poor "alternative" people not knowing about it... and even if they did... not knowing how to do it!

When an update is released on Mac, the user will have a window that pops up that asks you if you want to download it. If you don't want to download it, you simply press no. I don't know why you wouldn't want to download a security update though...

Holy crap! A Mac OS needs a security update? HOLD THE PRESS! Make it front page!!!!

There are multiple critical flaws programmed into Mac OS. lool

So much for "it just works!"... :shadedshu

wow i thought the mac was sooooo amazing that it needed no security system...

pshhh

there goes another argument mac... just go die... i hate you

I just started using Mac a year ago, I've never got a single virus on my Mac, and thus far the only serious viruses I've heard of that are common on a Mac are from the Mac version of MS Office. So for me, the MacBook does "just work". I've never had a single issue with this laptop.

I'm more than satisfied with Apple, and they are one (and the only) company I will continue to buy proprietary lap tops from in the future.

Cheers for the updates! :toast:

Some of you guys don't get it.
Mac is thought to be more secure when it's not, in fact Windows is a hell of a lot more secure. The problem is virus coders/hackers/what have you are focusing thier attention on Windows because that's what everyone uses.

hatSome of you guys don't get it.
Mac is thought to be more secure when it's not, in fact Windows is a hell of a lot more secure. The problem is virus coders/hackers/what have you are focusing thier attention on Windows because that's what everyone uses.

Thus, you proved yourself wrong and Mac is more secure. Furthermore, what you just said is all opinion based.

Think about it. Mac almost never gets patched. Windows gets stuff released for it like every week. Just because all the hackers focus on Windows does not mean the Mac is more secure. Windows is because it has patches being made for it constantly. Let's say all these hackers shifted thier attention to the Mac, I'm sure they would find a LOT of security holes.

It really comes down to your definition of secure. I define secure as a box with lots of locks on it (windows). Apparantly, you find secure to be a box with no locks on it, but nobody messes with it anyway.

I guess I just didn't make myself clear enough.

To add to the argument, I've been using Windows for 12 years, and I've never gotten a single virus. I agree 100% here with Hat. Just because an OS isn't popular enough to have hackers write viruses doesn't mean squat on its security. People consider OSX some god of stability, when in all reality it isn't. No OS is perfect, and with the continual complications of software, there are more and more chances for there to be bugs. In OSX's case, these bugs are never exploited, so people assume they don't exist. Get real!

Linux is exactly the same way too. An OS where the entire shell is open to anybody just begs hackers to screw with it. Just because there's a "community" there to fix problems, doesn't mean anything regarding its security. If anything Linux has a complete lack of security, because there is potential for a single virus that is bad enough to wipe out everything.

If either OSX or Linux become popular enough, they'll turn exactly into what people think of Windows. If Windows was really as insecure as people say it is, why would it have ~80% market share, and why wouldn't there be catastrophic problems on an HOURLY basis? When more and more people use a piece of software, that's how most bugs are found. So the logic of, in this case, OSX users, is that because more bugs are found, it is "insecure"? Wow, that's hilarious.

hatThink about it. Mac almost never gets patched. Windows gets stuff released for it like every week.

You obviously have no idea about Mac updates. Please don't start a conversation that is trying to inform other people when you know nothing about it.

@ fatforester; You've had windows for 12 years and haven't had a virus? Guess you just got the internet this year. :laugh: Where are you from in Tennessee again lol?...

What kills me is that you guys put a product down that you've never used (except occasionally, if that) and then try to point out all these flaws to convince yourselves not to buy it. Reminds me of how I can't get my Grandfather to vote for a democrat even though he really doesn't know anything about the party or the candidates.

Macs are inherently more secure than Windows. OS X is essentially based off of BSD (Darwin), and handles permissions in a more secure way. There are a few Mac viruses, but due to the way OS X handles it's permissions, they can't do fly-by installs, like some Win viruses. (That's not to say it isn't coming tho). Current Mac viruses are installed by the user (via social engineering). Once installed they can receive the permissions they need to wreak havok. With that said, common sense is the best defense against viruses on any OS.

All software (be it OS or otherwise) has security holes, regardless of platform. The frequency of security patches in no way proves or disproves a piece of software's security.

And last but not least, it gets really old to see all the Mac bashers come into these threads, just to spout off a bunch of anti-Mac nonsense, and useless drivel. It's just as bad as the anti-MS posts. If you don't like the subject of the thread, just leave it alone.

Ravenas@ fatforester; You've had windows for 12 years and haven't had a virus? Guess you just got the internet this year. :laugh: Where are you from in Tennessee again lol?...

:laugh::laugh: Yup. Now don't get me wrong, there's plenty of other ways to screw up Windows, or any other OS. Those ways lay the blame on the user, not really the OS. And you should know about Tennessee by now! How're you liking break?

Wile EAll software (be it OS or otherwise) has security holes, regardless of platform. The frequency of security patches in no way proves or disproves a piece of software's security.

Common sense is the best defense against anything!

You're right about the frequency of security patches, it proves zilch by itself. When you consider the massive user base Windows has, patches every week mean quite a bit. The same applies with OSX and its smaller user base. It doesn't have as many bugs being exploited that MS does, so there's no rush to fix them. Their security is pretty much equal, because if you use both OS's as they're intended and with common sense, you shouldn't see any problems. When Windows has 92% market share, a handful of viruses to break through out of the millions upon millions of threats shouldn't deem it "insecure". In this case OSX is sheltered by its lower market share. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but when people use that as the reason it's more "secure", that's what bothers me.

I'm gonna stop beating a dead horse, because this argument isn't really against you guys. This is towards the people that can't put things into perspective. Hopefully I didn't sound off as "Mac bashing", although where I chose to lay this argument, that's exactly what I'll be accused of.