Sunday, February 3rd 2008

Google: Microsoft/Yahoo Merger Will 'Ruin The Internet'

As most of you know, Yahoo is seriously considering letting Microsoft buy them. However, we cannot forget that more than just Microsoft would benefit if Yahoo was to consider letting someone buy them. Google would also be pretty pleased if they could get Yahoo in their pocket, much like YouTube. However, instead of place a bid in, Google sent some nasty comments Microsoft's way.
Could Microsoft now attempt to exert the same sort of inappropriate and illegal influence over the Internet that it did with the PC? While the Internet rewards competitive innovation, Microsoft has frequently sought to establish proprietary monopolies-and then leverage its dominance into new, adjacent markets.
Please follow the source article for the full statement Google put out regarding this possible merger/purchase.
Source: ARSTechnica
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78 Comments on Google: Microsoft/Yahoo Merger Will 'Ruin The Internet'

#51
zatblast
well doubt either google or m$ will get it... i dont care who ends up with google provided its not m$ or um aol xD anyways googles gonna pound on m$, m$ is gonna pound on google.... both shall lose thats that, lets move on to the 700mhz spectrum
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#52
Wile E
Power User
RavenasHmm, you're right. Schizophrenia or a personality disorder would be a better term.:laugh:
Those aren't traits of a Bipolar person either. In some cases a Bipolar person is misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia, but that's mostly with children, as it's harder for them to understand their emotions, and don't react to them the way an adult would.
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#53
Ravenas
Wile EThose aren't traits of a Bipolar person either. In some cases a Bipolar person is misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia, but that's mostly with children, as it's harder for them to understand their emotions, and don't react to them the way an adult would.
No I was saying that those 2 terms would be better, not that they were traits. This is totally off topic and if you want to talk about it, lets take it to PM.
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#54
Wile E
Power User
RavenasNo I was saying that those 2 terms would be better, not that they were traits. This is totally off topic and if you want to talk about it, lets take it to PM.
Lol, you're right, lets get this back on track.

I'm still curious as to why MS is interested in Yahoo. I mean besides the user base. What else would they take from this?
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#55
Ravenas
Wile ELol, you're right, lets get this back on track.

I'm still curious as to why MS is interested in Yahoo. I mean besides the user base. What else would they take from this?
Apple is also trying to buy Yahoo. I don't know why either of them are getting caught up in the internet like this, and I hate to see it.
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#56
Dangle
RavenasI don't know why either of them are getting caught up in the internet like this
That's why you're the Art major, and they are the multi-billion dollar companies who got that way through successful decision making.

Online Apps are becoming more and more popular. Offline apps are becoming more and more obsolete. Microsoft and Apple study the market like hawks and they know they need to make a move. Google also watches the market like a hawk - which is why they're going to try to give MS all the bad press they possibly can - because, you need to understand something: Google is NOT a 501(c)3 Non-Profit organization. MS buying Yahoo will cost Google money (competition - good for consumer - do you even understand this concept? This can only mean good things for you and me... If you want me to repeat this again, just ask I will copy and paste in PM).
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#57
candle_86
google couldnt outbig MS, MS could keep going higher and if they want to they can outbid apple also. MS just happens to be one of richest companies on the planet, and could outbid the US Government if they really wanted to.
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#58
effmaster
candle_86google couldnt outbig MS, MS could keep going higher and if they want to they can outbid apple also. MS just happens to be one of richest companies on the planet, and could outbid the US Government if they really wanted to.
Sorry but even Microsoft doesnt have a 3.1 Trillion dollar budget on its hands lol
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#59
ktr
Lets get this down.

1) Google has 75% of paid search revenues worldwide. So if MS takes Yahoo, Google will still have 75%.

2) MS is possibly the least innovative company out there. All they do is buy or copy other companies/ideas. This has been seen all the way since early word processing, spread sheets apps, and internet browsers. Sure give given the props for XP and older O/S...but vista!?! Now that's a clone off stuff seen in the open source world of Linux. And on top of that, they are making "works only on vista" formats for documents, pictures, etc.

3) Google has done so well because they are innovative and are able to deploy new technologies and apps in very little time. Every week they announce 5-10 new services or upgrades to their current services. (They do this every Friday).

4) MS does not have the money to buy yahoo. Bill Gates wealth does not mean MS wealth. MS will have to borrow 50% of the money to purchase yahoo. Also MS is not the "richest" company on the planet. ExxonMobile can buy MS in one quarter of profits alone! GE has assets that is worth more than MS.
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#60
Dangle
ktr1) Google has 75% of paid search revenues worldwide. So if MS takes Yahoo, Google will still have 75%.
Fine - so what's the big fuss about? Google will still almost have a monopoly - which you fanboys long for, so why are you all crying about this buyout?
ktr2) MS is possibly the least innovative company out there. All they do is buy or copy other companies/ideas. This has been seen all the way since early word processing, spread sheets apps, and internet browsers. Sure give given the props for XP and older O/S...but vista!?! Now that's a clone off stuff seen in the open source world of Linux. And on top of that, they are making "works only on vista" formats for documents, pictures, etc.
Yea, because google invented spreadsheet, word processing, mapquest, youtube... give me a break.
ktr4) MS does not have the money to buy yahoo. Bill Gates wealth does not mean MS wealth. MS will have to borrow 50% of the money to purchase yahoo. Also MS is not the "richest" company on the planet. ExxonMobile can buy MS in one quarter of profits alone! GE has assets that is worth more than MS.
ktr, MS absolutely has enough money to buy yahoo. MS has like 1000 times the net income yahoo does. Microsoft's games division makes more money than Yahoo.
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#61
ChillyMyst
all those that think this would be good, you must be ms humping IE lovers, because if MS gets control over the net they will do all they can to prevent the likes of FF and Opera from being able to read websites, look at IE7 and tell me that ms supports proper W3C specs......

www.w3.org/

ms dosnt support it because they want you/everbody to use their Hacked version of html/css/php/WTFE they are even putting out a compeditor to flash called silverlight, tho i think in that case its a good thing even if its by ms, i hate flash!!!!!
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#62
asb2106
effmasterMicrosoft already has one its Called Live search: www.live.com/
yah but I never said it was any good, or that anyone used it.
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#63
asb2106
ChillyMystall those that think this would be good, you must be ms humping IE lovers, because if MS gets control over the net they will do all they can to prevent the likes of FF and Opera from being able to read websites, look at IE7 and tell me that ms supports proper W3C specs......

www.w3.org/

ms dosnt support it because they want you/everbody to use their Hacked version of html/css/php/WTFE they are even putting out a compeditor to flash called silverlight, tho i think in that case its a good thing even if its by ms, i hate flash!!!!!
And this is one of my main problems with MS getting this involved in the web. There are a few sites out there that I have to use IE7 for, otherwise they dont work right.
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#64
asb2106
DangleYea, because google invented spreadsheet, word processing, mapquest, youtube... give me a break.
wow dude, we all know they didnt, and honestly MS didnt invent them either. The point is that google gives a free version of all these for us to use, a space to hold our files, and the ability to access the programs and files no matter what computers we go on.

Using MS office apps, the apps will only work with MS files. IF you use google Apps it will load just about any format you can find. I have used it to open many many files that I could not get to open MS apps.

Working with a general contractor they get alot of docs that come in from odd various formats, and I have to find a program to open it, and I found a free one(google)

Google gives there apps for free, MS charges(ALOT) I see a pattern that could ruin yahoo.
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#65
ktr
DangleYea, because google invented spreadsheet, word processing, mapquest, youtube... give me a break.
labs.google.com/ <---there is you break.

Go and call 1(800)GOOG-411

Google improved the internet, while Microsoft exploited it. Why do i have to play MSN to get premium services, while Google offers for free and better. Google Docs is free and has limitless potential, while Microsoft cost a bunch, and is still a limited word processor since the original office.

Google does not make 75% of the ads revenue by sitting down and smoking a joint...
Danglektr, MS absolutely has enough money to buy yahoo. MS has like 1000 times the net income yahoo does. Microsoft's games division makes more money than Yahoo.
Source?

arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/02/05/microsoft-we-dont-have-the-cash-for-yahoo
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#66
asb2106
ktrlabs.google.com/ <---there is you break.

Go and call 1(800)GOOG-411

Google improved the internet, while Microsoft exploited it. Why do i have to play MSN to get premium services, while Google offers for free and better. Google Docs is free and has limitless potential, while Microsoft cost a bunch, and is still a limited word processor since the original office.

Google does not make 75% of the ads revenue by sitting down and smoking a joint...



Source?

arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/02/05/microsoft-we-dont-have-the-cash-for-yahoo
well said, and 1800GOOG411 is awesome!! Use it everyday!
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#67
Dangle
If MS buys Yahoo, google will give you more of the free shit that you love. Stop being babies because you think this sounds bad... it isn't. It's not like MS can bully google out of the competition... they can't. This purchase will spur competition and innovation - which is always good for the consumer. I know you guys desparately want google to own a monopoly on the internet, but thinking long term, this would be very bad. Imagine MS without apple in the picture... The only people that shouldn't be happy about this is Google - since they're the ones who will have to work harder and spend more money.
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#68
asb2106
DangleIf MS buys Yahoo, google will give you more of the free shit that you love. Stop being babies because you think this sounds bad... it isn't. It's not like MS can bully google out of the competition... they can't. This purchase will spur competition and innovation - which is always good for the consumer. I know you guys desparately want google to own a monopoly on the internet, but thinking long term, this would be very bad. Imagine MS without apple in the picture... The only people that shouldn't be happy about this is Google - since they're the ones who will have to work harder and spend more money.
you can never come up with good points, you just have to make some half ass atempt to attack someone personally, its pretty sad.

We never said it would be bad for that, I was saying it would ruin yahoo. And from what it sounds like your a big supporter of yahoo or MS, so if you like yahoo you should agree, but whatever.

Do me a favor and next time you feel the need to put someone down just keep it to yourself. Nobody really cares what you think and your posts have no credibility when you have to resort to things like that. Just grow up and shut up.
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#69
asb2106
DangleIf MS buys Yahoo, google will give you more of the free shit that you love. Stop being babies because you think this sounds bad... it isn't. It's not like MS can bully google out of the competition... they can't. This purchase will spur competition and innovation - which is always good for the consumer. I know you guys desparately want google to own a monopoly on the internet, but thinking long term, this would be very bad. Imagine MS without apple in the picture... The only people that shouldn't be happy about this is Google - since they're the ones who will have to work harder and spend more money.
and apple isnt in the picture, I dont consider less than 5 % to count. Thats like saying ask.com is a major competitor to google. hah
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#70
Ravenas
asb2106you can never come up with good points, you just have to make some half ass atempt to attack someone personally, its pretty sad.

We never said it would be bad for that, I was saying it would ruin yahoo. And from what it sounds like your a big supporter of yahoo or MS, so if you like yahoo you should agree, but whatever.

Do me a favor and next time you feel the need to put someone down just keep it to yourself. Nobody really cares what you think and your posts have no credibility when you have to resort to things like that. Just grow up and shut up.
ASB I wouldn't worry about it man, the guy is always right, he's the genius in a pack of idiots. Move along and just don't worry about him. :laugh:
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#71
asb2106
RavenasASB I wouldn't worry about it man, the guy is always right, he's the genius in a pack of idiots. Move along and just don't worry about him. :laugh:
good call, and I have to say, Im new to this - so it kind of bothers me to hear people act so childish. This was one of the reasons I avoided forums for so long, for the most part TPU is different but you can always find 'em
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#72
3991vhtes
It'll be good for the people who support MS and Yahoo (such as I)

DOWN WITH GOOGLE!!!!
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#73
Dangle
asb2106you can never come up with good points, you just have to make some half ass atempt to attack someone personally, its pretty sad.

We never said it would be bad for that, I was saying it would ruin yahoo. And from what it sounds like your a big supporter of yahoo or MS, so if you like yahoo you should agree, but whatever.
Acutally I'm a fan of both companies. I love google. I've had a Gmail account since gmail only gave 1GB, and you had only 10 invites. I've been using the search engine long before that. I'm evena bigger fan of good products and innovation. Only a liberal idiot couldn't see how this would be good for every party involved. Innovation is only spurred by competition, something that is not found in companies that have a monopoly.

Let's take a look at back in history. Gmail gave 1GB of storage. At the time, this was unheard of since you had to pay MS and Yahoo for 50MB. Later that year, MS and Yahoo gave everyone 250MB of storage for free. Then Google upped the ante to 2GB - and added the Storage trickle. Soon after, Hotmail and Yahoo gave UNLIMITED e-mail space. Soon after that, the Gmail trickle increased tremendously.

Look at the big picture my friends... Google is getting waaaaay too powerful. there is no chance in hell yahoo will be able to catch up unless MS buys them and combines powers.
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#74
Wile E
Power User
DangleAcutally I'm a fan of both companies. I love google. I've had a Gmail account since gmail only gave 1GB, and you had only 10 invites. I've been using the search engine long before that. I'm evena bigger fan of good products and innovation. Only a liberal idiot couldn't see how this would be good for every party involved. Innovation is only spurred by competition, something that is not found in companies that have a monopoly.

Let's take a look at back in history. Gmail gave 1GB of storage. At the time, this was unheard of since you had to pay MS and Yahoo for 50MB. Later that year, MS and Yahoo gave everyone 250MB of storage for free. Then Google upped the ante to 2GB - and added the Storage trickle. Soon after, Hotmail and Yahoo gave UNLIMITED e-mail space. Soon after that, the Gmail trickle increased tremendously.

Look at the big picture my friends... Google is getting waaaaay too powerful. there is no chance in hell yahoo will be able to catch up unless MS buys them and combines powers.
Tho you did make some good points, you should leave the insults out of it.
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#75
asb2106
DangleAcutally I'm a fan of both companies. I love google. I've had a Gmail account since gmail only gave 1GB, and you had only 10 invites. I've been using the search engine long before that. I'm evena bigger fan of good products and innovation. Only a liberal idiot couldn't see how this would be good for every party involved. Innovation is only spurred by competition, something that is not found in companies that have a monopoly.

Let's take a look at back in history. Gmail gave 1GB of storage. At the time, this was unheard of since you had to pay MS and Yahoo for 50MB. Later that year, MS and Yahoo gave everyone 250MB of storage for free. Then Google upped the ante to 2GB - and added the Storage trickle. Soon after, Hotmail and Yahoo gave UNLIMITED e-mail space. Soon after that, the Gmail trickle increased tremendously.

Look at the big picture my friends... Google is getting waaaaay too powerful. there is no chance in hell yahoo will be able to catch up unless MS buys them and combines powers.
Well your right, I did see the battle of email space, I have had gmail for a while myself. I would like to see yahoo make a run but I think that this would just ruin yahoo, MS would put there code behind it and cause problems using differnet browsers, they might charge for some features, they could limit the email accounts(or make them use live mail). Really the only negative I see from this is the decline of yahoo. And thats only speculative. It could be the best merger ever, or it could be a flop. I guess we will never know until it happens
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