so what your all saying is MS is a lame duck that doesn't do any good?

give me a break, id bet more than 90% of you are on a version of windows right now. As for office apps, of course MS is gonna charge for them, they are a company they make money, this isnt russia. Ive used googles apps and openoffice and i find MS Office easier to work with, the only one i like more is Lotus but they went out of bussiness.

candle_86so what your all saying is MS is a lame duck that doesn't do any good?

give me a break, id bet more than 90% of you are on a version of windows right now. As for office apps, of course MS is gonna charge for them, they are a company they make money, this isnt russia. Ive used googles apps and openoffice and i find MS Office easier to work with, the only one i like more is Lotus but they went out of bussiness.

not thats not what we are saying, what we are saying is that ms SUCKS at internet stuff, they cant seem to bring themselves to follow the standreds EVERYBODY ELSE AGREES ON!!!!

ms is really bad about trying to force everybody to do everything their way.

and ms office 2007 sucks IMHO, the layouts horrible, the menu system is just horrible, no other way to describe it really.

i got no problem with advancement and innovation but thats not what ms does anymore, they just re-sell the same ideas with go faster stripes and then force you to use their verion os something.

i personaly love my windows x64pro but hate vista, i like office 2003 but hate 2007 because really all they did was make it look WORSE and run WORSE (vista and office 2007)


ms has a poor track reccord with alot of things like internet standreds.......

i love how ms humpers like candle_86 will defend anything ms makes as the best thing ever!!!!!

btw lotus was part of IBM they disscontinued the products because alot of companys and govts stoped using their products due to massive flaws, i know my fathers school district stoped using it because u couldnt sync it with PDA's without taking a large risk u would loose the data on both!!!!

ChillyMystnot thats not what we are saying, what we are saying is that ms SUCKS at internet stuff, they cant seem to bring themselves to follow the standreds EVERYBODY ELSE AGREES ON!!!!

ms is really bad about trying to force everybody to do everything their way.

and ms office 2007 sucks IMHO, the layouts horrible, the menu system is just horrible, no other way to describe it really.

i got no problem with advancement and innovation but thats not what ms does anymore, they just re-sell the same ideas with go faster stripes and then force you to use their verion os something.

i personaly love my windows x64pro but hate vista, i like office 2003 but hate 2007 because really all they did was make it look WORSE and run WORSE (vista and office 2007)


ms has a poor track reccord with alot of things like internet standreds.......

i love how ms humpers like candle_86 will defend anything ms makes as the best thing ever!!!!!

btw lotus was part of IBM they disscontinued the products because alot of companys and govts stoped using their products due to massive flaws, i know my fathers school district stoped using it because u couldnt sync it with PDA's without taking a large risk u would loose the data on both!!!!

I like Vista well enough, but still prefer XP x64 myself, tho. But I actually like Office 07 better than 03. It's actually intuitive for me. Reminds me of Office on Mac.