If the BFG 9800GX2 gets to about $500 by April 20th or later then I'll probably get that and then (100-day) step up to either the 9900GTX or 9900GX2 (which ever has more performance than the 9800GX2).

If this is true, thats really too bad for the early adopters of the 9800GX2. Even if they got evga or BFG their step-up will run out before the new cards are released. And for everyone else they're just stuck with it. These 9900 cards better be amazing otherwise nvidia will be in a little bit of trouble on the high-end market.

-Indybird

fake, they updated their story

Update: According to sources, 9900GX2 do not exist. We are sorry for the mistakes.

SpookyWillowfake, they updated their story

:)

ffs I am dizzy again, if this continues I am over to the "Darkside" to get two x300's for XFire. NVidia need to be capped on releasing no more than 10 models/generations/cards per year, that way they may have a bit more time to support their existing ones properly.

Update: According to sources, 9900GX2 do not exist for now. We are sorry for the mistakes.


en.expreview.com/2008/04/08/geforce-9800gx2-will-be-eoled-in-three-months/


regards

i think nvidia is trying to capitalize on their "beta cards"

the 9800GX2 is probably identical to the 9900GX2 other than the GPU itself.

does anyone know the specs for the new GT200?

Wasn't the 9800 GX2 just 2 8800GT's on a board? G92 was just a die shrink with little performance gain, but still 8 series tech? The 9600GT was a rebranded and underclocked 8800GT?

Yeah, I kinda feel bad for nVidia fans over teh past couple months. They've been getting a lot of rehash, instead of actual advancement. Not that Ati has done any better on the tech side of things...

I told you it was gonna be just like the 7900GX2.. I TOLD YOU SO.

This is unreal I just bought 2 XFX 9600GT XXX Alpha Dog cards. Wonder how long they will be around. It almost pays to stay with the 8800's until nvidia figures out what they are doing next.

atm is you have a newer 8800 you should be fine for a while tbh nvidia really has released way to much way to soon, its kinda anoying

EOL doesnt mean they stop making drivers for it.

They made drivers for the Geforce4 Ti card right untill late 2006. GeforceFX is just now being dropped also. The newest drivers also support the 7950GX2 where you heard it doesnt i don't know, but EOL means they arn't making it, it doesnt mean they stop supporting it.


Also the 9600 is not an 8800GT thats had half the crap turned off, its a brand new core that never had the crap built in

I think I'm going to stick with either an 8800GTS or an 9800GTX to be fair; even if the 99xx series is amazing, I'm pretty sure it won't be the 79xx > 88xx series jump people hope it will be.

newconroerWhy? If the following cards are not that much of an upgrade, what does it matter?

If they are better, then..well it's not like the GX2 is a POS, and considering the price...I'd say people are getting a decent deal, if we look back in retrospect at the cost of some of the similar tiered cards from the recent past.

As has been said already, its not that this suddenly makes the 9800GX2 a bad card, but rather that driver support and game profiles for it will dry up, meaning potentially the card does not get recognised for what it is.

Update: According to sources, 9900GX2 do not exist.

It was doomed from the start. Its just two 8800gt's stuck together. The price point for the thing is just too high for the performance it provides. But that also means the 9900gtx should be a real gtx like the beast that the 8800gtx was. The g94 chip is the true performer. If they'll just put 128 shaders on that's thing along with 768 DDR3 or DDR4 then that your real gtx.

webwizardUpdate: According to sources, 9900GX2 do not exist.

I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into that.. I can't remember the source but there were others pointing towards the 9900GX2 coming out in July before this story and ultimately it would make sense... If ATI uses an x2 card with their new chip in the summer to take the performance crown, the only reason Nv wouldn't use the same tactic to take it back (exactly like they did with the 9800GX2) would be if there were significant issues with doubling up the chips/cards into a sandwhich that made it not worth it.

EOL doesnt mean they stop making drivers for it.

Lesser priority for fixing certain issues for it though.

Here's where that came from.

en.expreview.com/

Wasn't the 9800 GX2 just 2 8800GT's on a board? G92 was just a die shrink with little performance gain, but still 8 series tech? The 9600GT was a rebranded and underclocked 8800GT?

Yeah, I kinda feel bad for nVidia fans over teh past couple months. They've been getting a lot of rehash, instead of actual advancement. Not that Ati has done any better on the tech side of things...

Pretty much. Nvidia is at this point competing against itself on almost every tier. So they have no reason to release any 32 ROP 320 SP monster parts, hence the G92 was born, a tamer, severely cut down and tightened up offspring of G80 that is cheap to produce. People jumped on these because they offered decent performance (albeit at perhaps lower resolutions with AA/AF turned a bit down vs. high end G80 parts) and they were affordable compared to previous G80 parts. People who couldn't budget a G80 product finally had something they could pick up without having to sell their kidneys.

As for the next series, I don't know. From what I've been reading on Expreview, NordicHardware, and other places, it seems like it will be a even further tweaked G92, only with a die shrink (55nm?) which will allow it even higher clocks but the rest will remain the same (paltry 16 ROP's, 256-bit memory bus) which will quite probably be counter-balanced by higher clocks (again, thanks to even smaller process) and use of super-clocked GDDR4/5 VRAM, but nothing revolutionary.

It really depends on what AMD puts on the shelves this summer. Why release anything serious when the competition (AMD) is having trouble on every level. A struggling competitor is better than a bankrupt competitor, from a business perspective anyways. nVidia was one of the most profitable corporations last year and was designated by Forbes as "Company of the Year" for 2007. With AMD in such condition, I don't seen any reason they would change their tactics.

AddSubPretty much. Nvidia is at this point competing against itself on almost every tier. So they have no reason to release any 32 ROP 320 SP monster parts, hence the G92 was born, a tamer, severely cut down and tightened up offspring of G80 that is cheap to produce. People jumped on these because they offered decent performance (albeit at perhaps lower resolutions with AA/AF turned a bit down vs. high end G80 parts) and they were affordable compared to previous G80 parts. People who couldn't budget a G80 product finally had something they could pick up without having to sell their kidneys.

As for the next series, I don't know. From what I've been reading on Expreview, NordicHardware, and other places, it seems like it will be a even further tweaked G92, only with a die shrink (55nm?) which will allow it even higher clocks but the rest will remain the same (paltry 16 ROP's, 256-bit memory bus) which will quite probably be counter-balanced by higher clocks (again, thanks to even smaller process) and use of super-clocked GDDR4/5 VRAM, but nothing revolutionary.

It really depends on what AMD puts on the shelves this summer. Why release anything serious when the competition (AMD) is having trouble on every level. A struggling competitor is better than a bankrupt competitor, from a business perspective anyways. nVidia was one of the most profitable corporations last year and was designated by Forbes as "Company of the Year" for 2007. With AMD in such condition, I don't seen any reason they would change their tactics.

Unfortunately I have to agree with you on your third paragraph.
Sadly for us though I think there is more performance available but if ATI doesn't put up Nvidia won't be able to for fear of becoming the "monopoly" (conceptually on the high end).

Being an Nvidia/AMD fan, I would honestly like to see ATI come out with something that kicks @$$. I feel that Nvidia is getting lax with all these releases.

On topic.
I think almost everyone knew the fate of the GX2 but few of us wanted to believe it (including me). Not that it is a bad card, just that it isn't "the" card.

SilverelWasn't the 9800 GX2 just 2 8800GT's on a board? G92 was just a die shrink with little performance gain, but still 8 series tech? The 9600GT was a rebranded and underclocked 8800GT?

Yeah, I kinda feel bad for nVidia fans over teh past couple months. They've been getting a lot of rehash, instead of actual advancement. Not that Ati has done any better on the tech side of things...

two 8800GTS. Rehash?....agreed but dont just feel bad for NVidia owners, feel sorry for ATI owners too......2900XT>>>HD3870 :)

MKmodsLOL, a 2 month lifespan for a $600 card:eek:

X1800XT anyone? except that one was more lik a month and a half. I bought it for 600$ on launch in december and then in mid- january the x1900xtx came out. lol

lol the x1800xt, that was super failure right there is 1950XTX for all of the two months it was top dog.

yogurt_21X1800XT anyone? except that one was more lik a month and a half. I bought it for 600$ on launch in december and then in mid- january the x1900xtx came out. lol

yeah, but the 1800XT were still around for a long while afterwards . . . they were just overshadowed real quikc by the 1900 series.


As to the OP - if true, there's gonna be a TON of pissed off nvidia users and fanbois

All this says to me is that the GT200 is going to be nothing special at all...