I read that the low clock rate are "smoke and mirrors" whatever that means.

Yup, core clock stays below 800 MHz, shader clock goes above ;)

Finally, ATI uses a shader-domain clock generator.

btarunrYup, core clock stays below 800 MHz, shader clock goes above ;)

Finally, ATI uses a shader-domain clock generator.

what does that mean ? :twitch:

it means

that there are separate core & shader clocks this time around, and that the shader clock is faster with... what? was it 40%, or am I making it up? anyway it's faster than the core :))

I cannot wait to see if this is the right choice...lol...I hope my waiting pays of at the end.

I head ATI sent nVidia a tape with the Jaws theme song on it




:D

I wonder what the mem clocks are?

does anyone know where you can pre-order one of theese??

lol, the 4850 comes out on my birthday :laugh:
I wanna see the 4870 + its' drivers before I commit to a new card or two, perhaps to time nicely with P45? ;)
*is plagued by choice*

Actually P45 comes at a bad time, with just about half an year until Nehalem and a set of new CPU's, sockets, chipsets, etc., which would out-date both P45 and LGA775 altogether, unless Intel plans to do what it did to Prescott and release a LGA775 Nehalem derivative.

imperialreignI head ATI sent nVidia a tape with the Jaws theme song on it




:D

lol epic. :roll:

imperialreignI head ATI sent nVidia a tape with the Jaws theme song on it

:D

That's just wrong :laugh: Not that I can't see where there getting at or anything :toast:

imperialreignI head ATI sent nVidia a tape with the Jaws theme song on it




:D

WOW , thats intense . WOuld make a hell of story if that was true.
ANyways, lets hope ATI's teeth do not get busted like it did last time with HD2000 series . :laugh:

So.. the end to speculation.. GDDR5 FTW! :toast:

Good thing about the seperate Shader domain.. huh, but i need to update my GPU charts :)

imperialreignI head ATI sent nVidia a tape with the Jaws theme song on it

I hope they didnt!

#1. A tape is a bit out of date... perhaps reflecting the technology competence of AMD? Oh dear. At least a CD, DVD, or MP3 on email would have been better. But a TAPE?

#2. AMD should be spending its resources on more contructive activities than "na, na, na, nah-nah" with its competitors, UNLESS, this is a direct and public marketing stunt to get more free web-inches. (it just succeeded, lol, but not necessarily in a +ve way)

#3. The 4870 isnt going to be in the retail channels until Q3. So, its a bit late, and NOT early. Never mind the official launch date... you cant drive it until its in your garage... and that wont be until July.

#4. Blowing your trumpet nearly 2 months before its in the consumer channels is pretty stupid. Why, because nVidia can pull some heavy reactive marketing to puh-puh what AMD has actually got out there today in the market place. nVidia can pull the Jaws trick in the retail channels NOW. And its only a few techno-geeks like ourselves that know about the 4870. 95% of GPU buyers dont even know (or care) about it yet... so nVidia can influence the market NOW

#5. 2 weeks before ATI launches, nVidia can start trumpeting their new GPU and how it is 100x faster than what ATI hasnt even launched yet.

But then again, ATI is now run by AMD, so its completely possible for them to pull a stupid PR stunt like this. Will backfire IMO. :pimp:

Obviously he was being sarcastic/funny. Some people are soo sensitive. :shadedshu

yea . Hate it when people try to sound relevant .

btarunrObviously he was being sarcastic/funny. Some people are soo sensitive. :shadedshu

lol :laugh: That's just being over analytical. My father loved ppl that were over analytical, but maybe that's why I stopped being like that :rolleyes:

Anyways I would still like to see nVidia's response to that tape :nutkick:

MegastyAnyways I would still like to see nVidia's response to that tape :nutkick:

They'd probably send back a Blu-ray disc with "Runs best with NVIDIA PureVideo HD" sticker, disc containing a hidden cam video of Jen-Hsun Huang doing "open a can of whoop-ass act".

I read somewhere that an HD4870 could be about as fast as an HD3870 X2.

Oh yeah, here: www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-37453-135.html

Well well AMD is gonna try to retake the crown, ha

Now we know when to expect GT200 and a crushing blow

Silurothat there are separate core & shader clocks this time around, and that the shader clock is faster with... what? was it 40%, or am I making it up? anyway it's faster than the core :))

So core clock is less important than shader clock, or is the core clock high enough so that it won't bottleneck the shader clock? ugh, I'm confused.:confused: What about ROP's? I thought those were very important as well, but they're still stuck on 16 ROP.

btarunrThey'd probably send back a Blu-ray disc with "Runs best with NVIDIA PureVideo HD" sticker, disc containing a hidden cam video of Jen-Hsun Huang doing "open a can of whoop-ass act".

I read somewhere that an HD4870 could be about as fast as an HD3870 X2.

Oh yeah, here: www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-37453-135.html

awesome article , best thing is the price point that was written in the article . If that happens then ATI is the winner .

I agree, plus people from ATi are actually making thier names associated with the cards! They must be proud, which makes me further believe these cards should be outstanding!

btarunrThey'd probably send back a Blu-ray disc with "Runs best with NVIDIA PureVideo HD" sticker, disc containing a hidden cam video of Jen-Hsun Huang doing "open a can of whoop-ass act".

:roll::roll::roll: damn funny thread!!! :toast:
:laugh:

well this is looking good. Anybody know where to preorder them yet? j/k i know you cant yet :(

Tank Guys is usually one of the first sites on board with preorders from what I can remember.:)