Wednesday, January 21st 2009

Radeon HD 4870 X2, HD 4850 X2 Faster and Better Than GeForce GTX 295, 285: AMD

Jan 21st, 2009 10:10 Discuss (145 Comments)

AMD started its marketing offensive against NVIDIA's new dual-GPU GeForce GTX 295, and single-GPU GeForce GTX 285 accelerators, in an attempt to put the Radeon HD 4800 X2 series accelerators ahead of its competition in terms of performance on a "broad scale", and used the cards' availability in non-reference designs as a USP against NVIDIA's offerings using a uniform company-specified design. All this, in an internal presentation leaked to Donanim Haber. As for those wondering why, ATI and NVIDIA have a history of picking on each others' flagship products by means of such presentations, with which they intend to influence OEMs and channel vendors, though it always happens so, that these presentations reach public domains. Viral marketing or something plausible? Find out for yourself:

Source: Donanim Haber

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145 Comments on Radeon HD 4870 X2, HD 4850 X2 Faster and Better Than GeForce GTX 295, 285: AMD

#126

TheMailMan78

Big Member

Sega can do what Nintendon't

#127

zithe

TheMailMan78Sega can do what Nintendon't

LOL.

This isn't any different than what normally goes on. :P

#128

jinu

EvilOneI remember the pre-NDA agrement for reviews on the 295, they MUST include a listed 5 games (which nvida already ran better on).

This sample of benchmarks is no worse then that was.

Its clear that ATI have selected very few games, and even fewer res/aa/af settings to show the benchmarks for. Only the ones that beat nvidia infact (*shock horror*). I think these benchmarks are as honest as every other review site out there.

So what if the 4870x2 outperforms the 295 for less money on a few things, its hardly unexpected or lies. The 295 does outperperform on almost every other test, which is what you would expect at its price point.

Wouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

#129

EvilOne

exactly my point.

#130

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

jinuWouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

Yes, thats why the sensible thing is to use reviews as ONLY an "aid" to deciding what card to buy, specifically how it performs with the games you play, unless you are a bench junkie, why would anyone but a Gfx card for say predominantly COD World at war at say $400 that gives them 95 FPS rather than a $200 card that gives them 70FPS, there will be no visible difference.....apart from in the wallet.

#131

lepra24

Go AMD & ATI GO:rockout:

#132

Castiel

lepra24Go AMD & ATI GO:rockout:

Amen

#133

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

lepra24Go AMD & ATI GO:rockout:

Go where? :p

#134

Hayder_Master

iamverysmartGDDR5? GDDR5 is only one part of the memory subsystem. The RAM alone doesn't determine squat.

sure i know , but this is best part and first part on the list

#135

pabloc74

Tatty_OneGo where? :p

go to the recycle bin:D

#136

iamverysmart

hayder.mastersure i know , but this is best part and first part on the list

Whether it's the first part or the last part, the RAM's speed is still irrelevant because it is only PART of the memory subsystem.

It's like saying someone is attractive by only looking at their toe nails.

#137

pabloc74

honestly with 295 i have to say that i note more performance in a lot of games, and i note too that the fps don't down when the power is needed, thats not happened with 4870x2, in certains moments of the game when requieres the max power of the vga i saw the lowest fps. so, in my experience i have to say that the 295 don't have the low-down of the fps

PD: 295 less power comp, less heat and less noise

#138

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

I hope that I can add some thing to this with out getting mixed up in all this . I hope that you will not take it as I am being a fanboy or any thing . But I have read this thread and one thing I can say is this is just a marketing ploy the people that are at the store will pick this box up and look at it they will not look at the reviews that show things in a different light . they will say wow this thing rocks ! take it to the register and buy it up .
All I see is a marketing ploy to get you to buy up this and look at the colors and the fan fare on the box too . Eye catching attractive almost hypnotic great effort on AMD's part to seduce you to buy there product . Again I hope I am on topic I hope I will not get you all mad at me for this . :(

#139

DarkMatter

tricksonI hope that I can add some thing to this with out getting mixed up in all this . I hope that you will not take it as I am being a fanboy or any thing . But I have read this thread and one thing I can say is this is just a marketing ploy the people that are at the store will pick this box up and look at it they will not look at the reviews that show things in a different light . they will say wow this thing rocks ! take it to the register and buy it up .
All I see is a marketing ploy to get you to buy up this and look at the colors and the fan fare on the box too . Eye catching attractive almost hypnotic great effort on AMD's part to seduce you to buy there product . Again I hope I am on topic I hope I will not get you all mad at me for this . :(

This is not for the end customer, it's for AIB vendors and partners, but you got the idea pretty well. This is probably what AMD showed XFX before they started doing AMD cards.

#140

spearman914

jinuWouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

Probably 2, GTA IV and Crysis warheads. No single card can play them at 1920 x 1080 w/ 4x aa playable framerates like 50-60fps.

#141

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

Hi Again I hope that I am not being a fan boy or any thing but when I look at the "scores" they have listed then look at the reviews done on X-bit Labs I can honestly say WTF?? I mean there is nothing to back up there claims . Or am I just being a fanboy ? Am I missing some thing ? Or just being to stupid ?
www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-geforce-gtx295.html

Maybe I am just being a stupid fanboy right ? :slap:

#142

spearman914

tricksonHi Again I hope that I am not being a fan boy or any thing but when I look at the "scores" they have listed then look at the reviews done on X-bit Labs I can honestly say WTF?? I mean there is nothing to back up there claims . Or am I just being a fanboy ? Am I missing some thing ? Or just being to stupid ?
www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-geforce-gtx295.html

Maybe I am just being a stupid fanboy right ? :slap:

Somethings fuckin wrong, but all seem about right.

#143

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

spearman914Somethings fuckin wrong, but all seem about right.

So I am wrong and being a fanboy ? Ok sorry about that . later .

#144

erocker

Somebody needs a vacation. Enough is enough.

#145

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

erockerSomebody needs a vacation. Enough is enough.

That will be me then.....next week in the Canary Isle's for a week..... a bit of AMD/Nvidia...less Winter Sun. :rockout:

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