Intel Losing CPU Market-Share to AMD

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mdm-adphSuperPi isn't the do-all and end-all -- it's an old, simple benchmark. :p A dual-core core pentium probably gets a better superpi score than a phenom II 940, but does it really matter?

It is a benchmark that measures the 100% true, raw power of a single core. Doesn't matter how old, or simple it is.

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3870x2It is a benchmark that measures the 100% true, raw power of a single core. Doesn't matter how old, or simple it is.

Real-world applications do, not synthetic tests. If an AMD processor is faster than an Intel processor in a given application, while being slower than it in SuperPi, it is still considered better...unless you're a performance enthusiast and a synthetic score is your dealbreaker.

Good stuff, maybe we can get some nice price wars going in this sector too. Cheap PCs for everyone.

And in response to everyone saying PII is a better choice than i7 in casual use, I'd say C2D is plenty, and PII is overkill. Rarely is 4 cores actually needed. Gaming, internet, normal media? C2D is still your best bang/buck.

3870x2It is a benchmark that measures the 100% true, raw power of a single core. Doesn't matter how old, or simple it is.

...while being optimized to run on Intel chips, of course. It's like saying Nvidia cards are "faster" at gaming because they always beat ATI's cards in Crysis benchmarks -- I don't believe that, either.

btarunrReal-world applications do, not synthetic tests. If an AMD processor is faster than an Intel processor in a given application, while being slower than it in SuperPi, it is still considered better...unless you're a performance enthusiast and a synthetic score is your dealbreaker.

I'm guessing that would have to do with particular instruction sets given to a processor. SuperPi is a very good test for raw processing power down to the core.

Please use Wprime 1.55 to test raw power.
Nothings better at doing so by my means, ive done calculations, i got them on a paper.

They are never off by more than 10%.

While Superpi is off by 10000000 % (jk) but well, it doesnt! it likes cache, is cache realworld experience builder:
NO.
Intel is faster due to faster cache, and larger size. easy enough. wprime gives a certant idea of how fast it is, and amd/intel is pretty comparable. select number of cores and you get a pretty good score.


I would like to see a P4 beat my PH II in a singlecore game like Clear sky.
Clock the P4 to where the time is better on the P4, and lets see guys!

My bet is on the PH II. or any other cpu thats not a P4.
Superpi is just an ancient app some people tend to like, who knows why, its like oldskool and a certant shine about it. looking the numbers roll down.

Personally, i dont like it, maybe cause it took 3 ages before the next number came down when i grew up :P

DarknovaSee? Everyone loves AMD really ^_^

Ofcourse, AMD really got me into building fast PCs. Cheap, affordable and reliable.

I hope they don't get greedy and raise the current champs prices.

Nice to see AMD rebounding from the brink of despair. Every little market share they recover keeps Intel competitive and honest. Would like to see AMD's share up around 30 to 35% of total market. Competition keeps companies on their toes! With competition comes advantages on the consumer market (price, avaliability and ever evolving and improving product). Kudos to AMD for sticking out the hard times. :toast:

I will contribute with a little experience here. from a longtime intel fan, who realized he got screewed by buying P4's all the time, and switched to AMD.

And he had his X2 for soo long, and he now bought a PHII. so lets take the price. its at 9000 NOK (900 quid, uk pounds) , which is like nothing for a system that runs games like that.

PH II 940 running stock. stock cooler.
4870X2
Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5
Crucial ballistix pc8500.
Antec sonata 3. changed psu to Pc power & cooling 750W
And a samsung drive @ 1tb.

And well, he runs 1680x1050, and he havnt seen a game lagg yet, other than crysis with AA and Cryostasis(which needs either 4870x2CF or GTX295, and physx graphics card to run smooth at max.

and he is soo pleased, and he have had his system for a while now.

He couldnt have built that system cheap without the PHII, it would have gotten 100-200 uk pounds more expensive with intel core 2 or core 7. and would not have given a better experience!

So do you game, not a bad choice, but its up to you, and how the pricing is in youre country, ati is hilariously cheap over here, while its other way round in other countries.

No wonder why amd is taking a piece of the cake, those tricores are just amazing for their price :D

They are also fun to oc, but not fun to do encoding at, maybe it changes in near future, would be cool with better compotition all across the board :D

Core 7 is still a masterpiece of a cpu though.

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3870x2I'm guessing that would have to do with particular instruction sets given to a processor. SuperPi is a very good test for raw processing power down to the core.

What I'm trying to say is that when an Intel E5200 performs better than a Phenom II 940 at SuperPi, that doesn't exactly make it a better CPU.

btarunrWhat I'm trying to say is that when an Intel E5200 performs better than a Phenom II 940 at SuperPi, that doesn't exactly make it a better CPU.

You shut up with your crappy "facts" nobody wants to know the "truth".

btarunrWhat I'm trying to say is that when an Intel E5200 performs better than a Phenom II 940 at SuperPi, that doesn't exactly make it a better CPU.

i couldn't agree more, i mean would i rather have a processor that performs great for 10-15seconds, or buy something at equal price that provides better performance in games? who buys a computer system based on SuperPI :laugh: i can understand enthusiasts buying system for benchmarks but specifically SuperPI no, lol no one bases the quality of a CPU off SuperPI, that'd be like someone basing which GPU to buy based on Furmark scores or something

TheMailMan78You shut up with your crappy "facts" nobody wants to know the "truth".

You mean like how every Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU you buy contributes to the Illuminati's secret economy?

DarknovaSee? Everyone loves AMD really ^_^

i think you're wrong

not everyone love AMD ,i think you don't need proofs....

AMD has achieved this position with prices and perf/price ratio but...

i say 50 % of buyer don't have a clue who is AMD or INTEL when buy a pc;they leave the decision to seller and only the final price matter

other 30% want to invest minimum for a rig which they use at least 2 year without upgrades.. and again the price is the major decision

the rest...20% know exactly what they buy and they decide depending on their knowledge, preferences (here come the fanboy) or performance

to summarize amd now has the best price/perf almost at all products but remember this ia accomplished with a minimal benefit so amd is still in... s..t you know what i mean,with all the debts they have all is about survival :o

I'm guessing it has to do with the slow economy. I hope AMD can capitalize on this.

suraswamiI hope they don't get greedy and raise the current champs prices.

Given their current financial situation, I can't see them doing that

btarunrYou mean like how every Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU you buy contributes to the Illuminati's secret economy?

Now see you're just being dumb. You and I both know Intel and Nvidia finance the space monkey mafia.

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Yes, everyone please buy AMD stock. It's dirt cheap and they are a company on the rise. I thought $11.20 a share was a deal when I invested in them. I need to make some money back.

ImsochoboIT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS:

Do you encode movies? Core 7

Encode and play games : core 7.

Casual use: PHII

Gaming : PHII / Core 7.

and then there is the money.

Core 2 series are outdated, wont come new cpu's to the platform, soo, that leaves AM2 and AM3 a good platform.

Many users with AM2 boards from 2005 2006, can actually snatch up on theese cpu's and put them in, yeah AM3 ones too, so you can use AM3 cpu's on Nforce 3 chipset :D

Core7 is faster, but for what price. its faster at numbercrunching and encode stuff. gaming too, but not by much.

Use the money on a GTX295 or 4870x2. or just a normal gfx, or a 2nd one. like i did :D

That's really poor logic and a pretty lame analysis of the situation... And btw, nForce 3 was a Socket 939 platform (DDR), which is in fact not compatible with AM3. Only AM2/AM2+ boards can do that. I love AMD and think this is a great new development for them, sure to only get better when the 45nm dual-cores come out, but really, Intel bleeding market share doesn't mean much till they're down to about 60%, just because it's so much harder to command the last quarter of the market than the first two.

aj28That's really poor logic and a pretty lame analysis of the situation... And btw, nForce 3 was a Socket 939 platform (DDR), which is in fact not compatible with AM3. Only AM2/AM2+ boards can do that.

Infact nforce 3 is a chipset, not a platform. You can use nf3 with am3 socket if you'd like.
Asrock has am3 cpu ready am2 socket motherboard with nforce3 chipset.