Monday, April 27th 2009
''Real Men Use Real Cores'': AMD
AMD finally stepped out of its shell after Intel's launch of its newest line of Xeon processors based on the Nehalem architecture. In an interview with TechPulse 360, AMD's Pat Patla and John Fruehe took on Intel's recent marketing drive for Nehalem Xeon products. The conversation revolved mainly around the issues of platform costs, and the features the new Xeon processors introduce (or reintroduce) to the server/enterprise computing industry, namely the company's proprietary FSB-replacement, QuickPath Interconnect, and HyperThreading.
The two first took on Intel's marketing, particularly on its material that said that the slowest Nehalem Xeon chip was faster than the fastest Opteron chip, saying that Intel's statements weren't backed by real figures. The two also alleged that Intel's server platform was too expensive and delivered lesser value in an ailing state of the economy. Perhaps the most audacious statement from AMD since the somewhat famous "only real men have fabs" statement by Jerry Sanders III, came from this interview, where AMD responded to a question on HyperThreading saying that "real men use real cores". "We've got real cores across our products. HyperThreading is basically designed to act like a core except that it only gives 10 to 15 percent performance bump for real applications workload." they said. Is AMD making a real point, or fighting fire...erm marketing with marketing? Find out in this interview.
The two first took on Intel's marketing, particularly on its material that said that the slowest Nehalem Xeon chip was faster than the fastest Opteron chip, saying that Intel's statements weren't backed by real figures. The two also alleged that Intel's server platform was too expensive and delivered lesser value in an ailing state of the economy. Perhaps the most audacious statement from AMD since the somewhat famous "only real men have fabs" statement by Jerry Sanders III, came from this interview, where AMD responded to a question on HyperThreading saying that "real men use real cores". "We've got real cores across our products. HyperThreading is basically designed to act like a core except that it only gives 10 to 15 percent performance bump for real applications workload." they said. Is AMD making a real point, or fighting fire...erm marketing with marketing? Find out in this interview.
71 Comments on ''Real Men Use Real Cores'': AMD
lets see that AMD have the x3 720be that is £100 and you cant get a comparable cpu for that price on intel
they need to just keep on doing what they are doing, i couldnt see the point of going from an x2 5000+BE to a intel e8200 or something when i could do phenomII
people who havea bit of cash obviously want to go for the higher performers
totaly derailed the thread now its a bash amd thread
have they had anything the past 2 years? no.
What do they have now, a competetive PHII, a very very very very competetive HD4xxx lineup, and is ahead schedual on everything! amd is finally back in the game if the same repeats as before.
Amd was abit cocky before too ;)
And the fact that more people are buying amd now than the last 2 years says only one thing, amd is giving intel compotition, they are taking MARKET SHARE.
They dont even have to match intels performance! the value is what that matters to people!
:shadedshu
In some apps kentsfield is indeed faster clock for clock than denab. Given the way current kentsfields overclock though I'd give the edge to current denabs, but the difference is negligible.
www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/605368/amd-phenom-ii-x4-940-black-edition.html
But at stock speeds, my statement was about right. The 9850 and the 9950 phenoms
weren't as close to the q6600 as I was thinking, but the PII are between the q6600 and q9550 levels. Maybe I was giving AMD alittle too much credit, but I wasn't far off.
Pre-Phenom AMD = 11.70/share
Post-Phenom AMD = 2.00 (ish) a share
Q6600 @ 3.59GHz - 5574 CPU SCORE
Phenom 2 @ 3.8GHz - 4921 CPU SCORE
www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/14
WinRAR
Q6600 @ 3.71GHz - 2226 kb/s
Phenom 2 @ 3.8GHz - 1775 kb/s
www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/15
SuperPI - 1M
Q6600 @ 3.73GHz - 13.734s
Phenom 2 @ 3.7GHz - 19.407s
news.ati-forum.de/index.php/testberichte/45-mainboards/212-test-amd-phenom-ii-x4-940-black-edition?start=7
That's just for start.. you want more?
no to actually furthur this super pi has always been a intel thing hands down. 3d06 is a bullshit test to different rigs could be as little as a driver change
go run a couple benches and i will happily post mine
I can only find this
and neither are on it :(
deal with it..yeah yeah.. 3d06 is intel thing too, winrar too, from now on if in a test the 2 years old intel coal-burning stove beats amd's super overpriced pii 940 ass then we'll just know that that test is "intel thing".. everything is "intel thing" nowdays..
VV NP Wile E. It's good that members don't tolerate this type of garbage either.