Friday, May 8th 2009

NVIDIA Posts Net Loss of $200 Million

NVIDIA Corporation today reported financial results for the first quarter of fiscal 2010 ended April 26, 2009. For the first quarter of fiscal 2010, revenue was $664.2 million compared with $1.2 billion for the first quarter of fiscal 2009, a decrease of 42 percent. During the first quarter of fiscal 2010, NVIDIA recorded a non-recurring charge of $140.2 million in connection with a previously announced cash tender offer to purchase employee stock options. This charge represents stock-based compensation expense associated with the stock options that were tendered, plus associated payroll taxes and professional fees.
NVIDIA's results for the first quarter of fiscal 2010, computed in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP), included a net loss of $201.3 million, or $0.37 per share. Non-GAAP net loss for the first quarter of fiscal 2010, which excludes recurring stock-based compensation charges, the non-recurring charge related to the tender offer, and the associated tax impact of these items, was $46.7 million, or $0.09 per share.

"We made good progress managing expenses and significantly reducing inventory, while continuing to invest in our growth strategies," said Jen-Hsun Huang, president and CEO of NVIDIA. "The GPU is ever-more central to our computing experience. There is a rapidly growing number of applications that rely on the GPU, and the industry is gearing up to launch the next generation operating systems that adopt GPU computing."

First Quarter Fiscal 2010 and Recent Highlights:
  • Revenue grew 38 percent sequentially from fourth quarter fiscal 2009. Inventory decreased from 144 to 64 days sequentially.
  • NVIDIA grew share, for the second consecutive quarter, in the total desktop standalone GPU segment from 63 percent to 69 percent from the fourth quarter of calendar 2008 to the first quarter of calendar 2009, as reported in Mercury Research's First Quarter PC Graphics Report 2009.
  • NVIDIA and Acer set a new standard for small PCs with the introduction of the world's first NVIDIA ION platform, the Acer AspireRevo. No larger than a typical hardcover book, the AspireRevo is a fully capable desktop with advanced graphics and impressive multimedia features.
  • NVIDIA released its OpenCL driver and software development kit to developers participating in its OpenCL software Early Access Program. NVIDIA is the first company to release OpenCL drivers to developers.
  • NVIDIA was first to demonstrate DirectX Compute on Microsoft Windows 7 at the Game Developers Conference. The upcoming DirectX Compute API for Vista and Windows 7 supports NVIDIA's current DX10 GPUs, as well as the company's future DX11 GPUs.
  • NVIDIA demonstrated the NVIDIA Tegra 600 Series computer-on-a-chip that enables an always-on, always-connected HD netbook that can go days between battery charges.
  • NVIDIA launched five new consumer applications accelerated by the CUDA architecture on NVIDIA GPUs - Super LoiloScope Mars (video editing); ArcSoft SimHD (DVD image enhancement); Nero Move It and Cyberlink MediaShow Espresso (video format conversion); and Motion DSP vReveal (real-time video quality enhancement).
  • NVIDIA and GeoStar, a leading Chinese geophysical services provider, unveiled the launch of a new Tesla-based hardware and seismic software suite that dramatically accelerates the performance of complex seismic data computation for oil and gas companies in China.
  • NVIDIA and BNP Paribas' Corporate and Investment Banking division recently replace 500 traditional CPU cores with a smaller cluster consisting of CPU servers and two Tesla S1070 systems, which require one-tenth the power. Taking into account the dramatic acceleration achieved using Tesla GPUs, the division is using 190-times less electricity than before.
  • NVIDIA announced that Harvard University has been recognized as a CUDA Center of Excellence for its commitment to teaching GPU Computing and its integration of CUDA-enabled GPUs for a host of science and engineering research projects.
Conference Call and Web Cast Information

NVIDIA will conduct a conference call with analysts and investors to discuss its first quarter fiscal 2010 financial results and current financial prospects today at 2:00 p.m. Pacific Time (5:00 p.m. Eastern Time). To listen to the call, please dial (212) 231-2900. A live Web cast (listen-only mode) of the conference call will be held at the NVIDIA investor relations Web site www.nvidia.com/ir and at www.streetevents.com. The Web cast will be recorded and available for replay until the Company's conference call to discuss its financial results for its second quarter fiscal 2010.

Non-GAAP Measures
To supplement the Company's Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations and Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets presented in accordance with GAAP, we use non-GAAP measures of certain components of financial performance. These non-GAAP measures include non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP operating expenses, non-GAAP net income (loss), non-GAAP net income (loss) per share, and free cash flow. In order for our investors to be better able to compare our current results with those of previous periods, we have shown a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures. These reconciliations adjust the related GAAP financial measures to exclude a non-recurring charge related to previously-announced tender offer, recurring stock-based compensation charges, and the associated tax impact of these items, where applicable. Free cash flow is calculated as GAAP net cash provided by operating activities less purchases of property and equipment and intangible assets. We believe the presentation of our non-GAAP financial measures enhances the user's overall understanding of our historical financial performance. The presentation of our non-GAAP financial measures is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP, and our non-GAAP measures may be different from non-GAAP measures used by other companies.
Source: NVIDIA
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52 Comments on NVIDIA Posts Net Loss of $200 Million

#26
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
I beleive most of this loss would relate to buying Ageia PhysX, the fiasco with faulty GPU's, and intel pulling their i7 chipset licence (Nv would have had work in progress here, it'd be silly to assume they didnt at least have prototypes)
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#27
_jM
well, no sh!t this would happen with ATi coming out with the 4890 this spring....
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#28
MrMilli
MusselsI beleive most of this loss would relate to buying Ageia PhysX, the fiasco with faulty GPU's, and intel pulling their i7 chipset licence (Nv would have had work in progress here, it'd be silly to assume they didnt at least have prototypes)
While Ageia did cost them a lot of money (rumured around $150 million), this purchase was done in februari 2008. It doesn't have anything to do with this quarters results.
The cost of the faulty gpu's was last quarter or the quarter before it. So again not this quarter.
And Intel i7 accounts for less than 1% of the sales so that can't hurt them (yet!).

I believe the current loss is directly related to the fact that nVidia doesn't make enough money on their chips. Their gross margin is down the sewer.
The mammoth sized GT200 chip is being sold way to cheap considering it's size and it's PCB is much more expensive then RV7xx's PCB.
AMD nVidia chipsets are being sold cheaper than their AMD counterparts and their Intel chipset are not really taking off in sales.

It's a common misunderstanding that ATI & nVidia make most of their money (i mean profit) in the low-end. I clearly remember a graph from both companies that showed that the most money is actually made in the high-end where profit margins are (normally) through the roof. Problem for nVidia now is that their high-end doesn't have a high enough margin to compensate the miniscule profit margin they make in the low-end.
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#29
PCpraiser100
So that explains why my friend is pissed at Nvidia lol.
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#30
WhiteLotus
I am pretty sure that, like most companies of late, they have artificially increased their costs (stuck it all in R&D would be a good example) and are reporting a loss just to see if the government will give them a nice helpful "Bailout".
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#32
ShogoXT
I will say I want ATI to hold its own against the big people, but I dont really want Nvidia to die for competition purposes.
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#33
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
SpatialAnomalyMost of the people posting here are pretty ignorant:

www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23315

The economy is in the toilet. Nobody is making record profits right now. Nvidia losing money in the first quarter means precisely nothing.

:shadedshu
thats a pretty big assumption to assume everyone in the world keeps up to date with the american economy. This is a global forum, not everyone bothers with the latest american news (unless its tech related)
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#34
a_ump
lmao nvidia is far from dying, just cause their profits are down doesn't mean much at all, ATI/AMD was in much more financial trouble before the HD 4XXX series were released. Yet even with low yields on nvidia's monolithic gpus it's still rumored that the GT300 will be huge as well, as big as the GT200 was. I don't get it lol they just think bigger instead of smarter
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#35
kenkickr
MrMilliWhile Ageia did cost them a lot of money (rumured around $150 million), this purchase was done in februari 2008. It doesn't have anything to do with this quarters results.
The cost of the faulty gpu's was last quarter or the quarter before it. So again not this quarter.
And Intel i7 accounts for less than 1% of the sales so that can't hurt them (yet!).

I believe the current loss is directly related to the fact that nVidia doesn't make enough money on their chips. Their gross margin is down the sewer.
The mammoth sized GT200 chip is being sold way to cheap considering it's size and it's PCB is much more expensive then RV7xx's PCB.
AMD nVidia chipsets are being sold cheaper than their AMD counterparts and their Intel chipset are not really taking off in sales.

It's a common misunderstanding that ATI & nVidia make most of their money (i mean profit) in the low-end. I clearly remember a graph from both companies that showed that the most money is actually made in the high-end where profit margins are (normally) through the roof. Problem for nVidia now is that their high-end doesn't have a high enough margin to compensate the miniscule profit margin they make in the low-end.
Im pretty sure they didn't put the full amount of cash on the table but went through a loaner, gave them a down payment, and are paying off the buyout(That's the way it works in the sports industry when new owners come in so I wouldn't think of it any differently in any other market)
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#36
silkstone
a111087i very much doubt that. Nvidia doesn't have to beg their customers as much as ATI because they have "blind followers" in form of unaware customers who frankly don't care what GPU they have.
Jee, another Fanboy troll :(
There's nothing wrong with ATI chips they are very competitive and often beat nVidia price/performance wise.
MrMilliIt's a common misunderstanding that ATI & nVidia make most of their money (i mean profit) in the low-end. I clearly remember a graph from both companies that showed that the most money is actually made in the high-end where profit margins are (normally) through the roof. Problem for nVidia now is that their high-end doesn't have a high enough margin to compensate the miniscule profit margin they make in the low-end.
More or less correct. While they don't make a huge profit off the higher end chipsets they make enough money to pay for all the R&D costs they put into it, eventually these chips get phased/recycled into the mid/low-end market where it begins to actually make serious money
(as oppose to offsetting the R&D costs) All of the crap in your computer is made of copper and sand, people, neither of which are really expensive. They own all the factories and equipment to manufacture the boards and a lot of the process is automated thus reducing the manpower costs.
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#37
SpatialAnomaly
Musselsthats a pretty big assumption to assume everyone in the world keeps up to date with the american economy. This is a global forum, not everyone bothers with the latest american news (unless its tech related)
The people in this thread who assumed that Nvidia was doomed, or that this is the result of ATI's 'new products' are the ignorant ones I was referring to.

It's pretty asinine to say stuff like that when ATI is not doing any better. That's the point of my post, which you clearly missed.

Quite frankly, this entire discussion has nothing to do with the 'american' economy. The problem is, as you said, global, and nothing in my post indicated anything to the contrary. In fact, I never once even mentioned America in my original post. But thanks for coming out. :rockout:
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#38
beck24
Nvidia's latest quarter $664 million in revenue. Ati's latest quarter $222 million.
Wake up people.
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#39
MrMilli
beck24Nvidia's latest quarter $664 million in revenue. Ati's latest quarter $222 million.
Wake up people.
$664: includes gpu's, chipsets, tesla, goforce, ... and whatnot
$222: only gpu's (not even Firestream)
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#40
ShadowFold
silkstoneJee, another Fanboy troll :(
I've been browsing forums since the NV6000 vs ATI X800 and I gotta say, there really are a lot of people who think ATi hides under there beds and will murder them unless they have an nvidia card.
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#41
beck24
$664: includes gpu's, chipsets, tesla, goforce, ... and whatnot
$222: only gpu's (not even Firestream)

Actually it includes all the business that ATI brought to the merger as that was not finalized for accounting purposes until after the quarter was reported.
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#42
hat
Enthusiast
Hey, I dropped $5, anyone seen it?
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#44
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
h3llb3nd4I'm sorry, I stole it:(
Yes. he stole it.

(thanks for taking the rap for me, i needed that money to see the new star trek movie)
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#45
h3llb3nd4
I took $5 from Ket also...Do you want it mussels?
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#46
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
h3llb3nd4I took $5 from Ket also...Do you want it mussels?
nah i already stole his wallet.


we should get this back on topic :)
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#47
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
MrMilliI hope you do know that ATI was in the lead up until Q3 2006 ever since they launched R300. Before that nVidia was and before Geforce ATI was again. These two companies have flipped positions more than once and it will happed again for sure (it would be really naive to think otherwise).

www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/2007-10/jpr_gfx_mkt_q3_2007_trends.png

www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050426103105.html

www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050127130508.html
Ahhhh right, now your talking market share and NOT profit/loss. The 2 dont necessarily sit hand in hand I am afraid, for example manufacturers more and more in this highly competative market sell at a loss (NVidia especially in the last 12 months), often whilst maintaining market share, it's sometimes how long they can go making that loss that determines the actual strength of the company, especially in the current worldwide economic crisis.
Funny thing is...... ATi will probably post a loss too, although thats just a guess.
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#48
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
MrMilli$664: includes gpu's, chipsets, tesla, goforce, ... and whatnot
$222: only gpu's (not even Firestream)
So are you assuming that if ATi/AMD included their other operations the picture would be different?
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#49
a_ump
i'd have to agree with a loss, but definitely an increase in market share as they've done a much better job this gen than the past 2. i see a lot more people on TPU with the HD 4870/90 in their specs than i see GTX 260/75. I also see more people recommending the HD 4890 on here over the GTX 275.
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#50
MrMilli
Tatty_OneAhhhh right, now your talking market share and NOT profit/loss. The 2 dont necessarily sit hand in hand I am afraid, for example manufacturers more and more in this highly competative market sell at a loss (NVidia especially in the last 12 months), often whilst maintaining market share, it's sometimes how long they can go making that loss that determines the actual strength of the company, especially in the current worldwide economic crisis.
Funny thing is...... ATi will probably post a loss too, although thats just a guess.
I know they don't sit hand in hand but google can help you with that:

news.cnet.com/ATI-revenue-jumps-40-percent/2100-1006_3-5129803.html
www.geek.com/articles/games/ati-enjoys-revenue-profit-surge-20040629/
www.cbc.ca/money/story/2005/03/24/ati-050324.html

So obviously ATI didn't have a bigger market share at the expense of their gross margin like nVidia is doing now.

BTW the ATI departement posted a $1 million profit in Q1 2009.
Tatty_OneSo are you assuming that if ATi/AMD included their other operations the picture would be different?
Don't you think their revenue would be higher if they included chipsets, ...? :roll:
Revenue != profit
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