Saturday, May 30th 2009

Intel to Cannibalize Core i7 920 / 940

Prepare to bid farewell to the $400 Core i7 upgrade dream. Chip major Intel is reportedly planning to discontinue some of the relatively affordable Core i7 processors, including the most commercially successful model, the 920. Cannibalizing the Core i7 920 and 940, will create market headroom for the company's upcoming Core i5 "Lynnfield" processors. Internal analysis reportedly show that the high-end Lynnfield processors perform too close to the lower models of Core i7, and that could potentially affect sales of those high-end Core i5 chips. Perhaps Intel is trying to oil the segment to make the most profits. Sources at motherboard manufacturers tell that the companies are already working on adjusting their X58 product lines to cater to the future lines of Core i7 processors, which, may start with the $649 Core i7 950 and beyond. What's more, 950 is expected to get the axe later down the line. It may have certainly been a good couple of quarters for you, saving for triple channel memory, true dual PCI-E x16 motherboards, and the elusive Core i7 920. You may want to execute your plans now, or change them.
Source: bit-tech.net
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175 Comments on Intel to Cannibalize Core i7 920 / 940

#77
TheMailMan78
Big Member
PCpraiser100FYI translation: F*ck You Intel
In Soviet forum. Intel F*ck you.
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#78
n-ster
mrw1986Meh...I'm still getting an i7 920 for $129 next month. Check out this deal:

Big Deal Bundle #2 – $129 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release

Or for $289 I can get this:

Big Deal Bundle #1 – $289 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release
Get bundle # 2

Now tell me how and where do you get these deals :D
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#80
mtosev
wiakgo amd :P
we went bankrupt click to continue to intel.com :nutkick:
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#81
n-ster
Guys please be mature :p
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#82
surfsk8snow.jah
mrw1986Meh...I'm still getting an i7 920 for $129 next month. Check out this deal:

Big Deal Bundle #2 – $129 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release

Or for $289 I can get this:

Big Deal Bundle #1 – $289 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release
Woa. Yes please tell me where to get this deal?? I would snatch in a heartbeat, especially given this news.

Honestly, this really does smack of monopolization... We had great product #1 for a reasonable price. But now we have a lesser (cheaper) product #2 that we can sell at the same price, so lets jack up the prices on #1!
I have been intel supporter for quite a long time, but this is a racket if I've ever seen one. And obviously they're in bed with mobo companies (see recent EU ruling against Intel), considering they keep changing sockets. Come on.
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#83
3xploit
mrw1986Meh...I'm still getting an i7 920 for $129 next month. Check out this deal:

Big Deal Bundle #2 – $129 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release

Or for $289 I can get this:

Big Deal Bundle #1 – $289 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release
intel retailedge.retailedge.intel.com/login.aspx you gotta work at certain retail stores to qualify. hell i might apply for wal-mart just to get that bundle...$129 + $180-$200board + $77ram and you got a full i7 setup
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#84
lemonadesoda
TBH, I think Intel is doing the right thing. i7, QPI and tripple channel DDR3 is all overkill for a "consumer" computer... AND... provides a specification and bandwidth way beyond that i7-920 needs.

So i5 can fill that performance gap for cheaper, and i7 should be kicked up to a higher level. They should move i7 to 6 core plus HTT, and use it for workstation and enthhusiast. i5 is more than enough for the consumer and the gamer.

Remember, i7 isnt being killed off! Just at the lower end it is being substituted by the equally capable i5. And there will be better i7 processors available for that platform available soon.
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#85
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
HaZe303This sux for us current i7 owners, what am I gonna do if my 920 breaks???
If it breaks under the three year warranty (30 days if you bought OEM), you'll probably get that 920 replaced by a 950. If you overvolted it or something voiding the warranty, then yeah, you're screwed.
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#86
mtosev
any ideas if i7 920 will still be available for parchase in September?
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#87
mabszy
well, i think intel could not satisfy 2 distinct industries with the i7 core, 1. The extremes (Gamers, 3D app users and the links) 2. The Rest (industries, companies, schools etc.) with the core i7 being too expensive for The Rest.

Perhaps Intel sees the lower end i5, being a stripped and hopefully much cheaper model of the i7 will be dominant in most computers bought for "The Rest". I guess this was a market that Intel felt threatened should AMD release their affordable new chips.
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#88
steelkane
Thats Intel for you,, rush the i7 out to beat AMD, then pull them & come out with less power for the same money. i5 should have came first.
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#89
mrw1986
mrw1986Meh...I'm still getting an i7 920 for $129 next month. Check out this deal:

Big Deal Bundle #2 – $129 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release

Or for $289 I can get this:

Big Deal Bundle #1 – $289 (USD)

* Intel® Core™ i7 920 processor
* Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
* Windows Vista Ultimate* (64-bit edition)
* Upgrade voucher to receive Windows 7* (64-bit edition) upon its release
Yes, it is the Intel Retail Edge bundle. I haven't worked for a store in years that has supported it...but I have my ways. Oh, and stop PMing me. You can't have my bundle.
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#90
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
steelkaneThats Intel for you,, rush the i7 out to beat AMD, then pull them & come out with less power for the same money. i5 should have came first.
thats what happens to all these companies they rush their top of the line first then release lower models that have been refined further to the point they are overall better with feature sets etc
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#91
OnBoard
DrPepperIt's not replacing. They are removing the 920 at its price point so they can use the i5's at that price.
Soylent JoeWhen the i5's hit the market, I wonder if all the C2D's and C2Q's will lower in price. If so, when are the i5's supposed to be coming out, because if it's soon, I might hold of on buying a CPU for my new build.
Now it all makes sense. Remove low end i7, bring out expensive i5 and no need to lower C2Q prices ever..

Intel sucks with their quad prices, I'd buy one if they were cheap, but couple years have passed and price hasn't changed. Unless you count Q6600 that's old and not made anymore or Q8xxx that are no use with their low multi.

Well they can keep their i5 too, I'll stay chep dual *shows tongue to Intel* :p
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#93
madrooster
We still have yet to see any other news source confirm this...
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#94
TheLaughingMan
Doubt all you want
n-sterWHAT DO YOU GUYS NOT UNDERSTAND? i5 was and is supposed to replace Core 2 in general... of course "several of the higher end Core 2 Quads will be killed off soon as well" since all Core 2s will o.O

I doubt that
I knew they would kill off the 920 at the least because its price point is kill sales of the 940 and C2 Quads around $200. Granted they make money with every sell, but they are make a bunch of processes as well they no one wants because they can get the 920.

I will admit that I didn't see the recent release of the refresh with the 950 and such, but this I knew. Believe it or not, I do my homework and the 920 has had it coming for a while. I figured the i5 was going to be the trigger man.

You are most definitely right about the Core 2 going the way side, but not without a fight. The 775 sold too well. The only way to push new people to buy the i5 is to kill competition from its C2 Quad brothers. While they will all the way side eventually, I think the higher end C2 Quads will die off before the i5 is released.
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#95
Black Hades
lemonadesodaTBH, I think Intel is doing the right thing. i7, QPI and tripple channel DDR3 is all overkill for a "consumer" computer... AND... provides a specification and bandwidth way beyond that i7-920 needs.

So i5 can fill that performance gap for cheaper, and i7 should be kicked up to a higher level. They should move i7 to 6 core plus HTT, and use it for workstation and enthhusiast. i5 is more than enough for the consumer and the gamer.
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Overkill for how long?
It's not for the 920's sake that we want to see the i7 platform stay, maybe I do want a motherboard that I'll keep fo 3 processor upgrades.:) If they'd instead just keep the c2d for low end /mainstream things would be much better. As i7 sales theoretically increase ddr3 will be cheaper, triple channel would become standard, this is the way tech and the marked evolve.

This is involution. As a new better product appears it should push the older ones pricewise down and in popularity up.
I could also understand if they wanted to fill a missing price range gap (like we see in the GPU market) but they are effectively chopping their way into the market. Of course we need competition for all this to happen. :ohwell:

I'll just stick to my wolfdale, let's face it...it's more than enough for even the most pretentious gamer provided you have a killer video card. Then when the market settles we'll see what's what.

If in 2 years time i5 will be an obsolete platform I'll laugh my hat off at all that bought it. Pun intended.
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#96
lococol
in games i7 is not such a big improvement to justify an upgrade , i have even seen tables where the stock i7920 is a frame or 2 slower than the stock e8500 in some games, i have a core2duo e8500@4000Ghz and i have yet to find a game where this cpu struggles(haven't tried gta4 yet) crysis runs like a dream all maxed out ,thanks to my 4870x2, my point is a good dual core and a top graphics card are better for gaming, still , as most games are not cpu intensive
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#97
Hayder_Master
i still say "pay 1$ for 1mhz cpu increase frequency" , pay 400$ over i7 to get 400mhz more
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#98
Deleted member 3
FordGT90Concepti7/X58 is the new Skulltrail platform. It is a multi-way architecture that doesn't take the FB-DIMM penalty that hurt the Xeon-based Skulltrail platform. Just as the original Skulltrails were ridiculous, Core i7 is going there too. I'm just happy there was a window where Core i7 wasn't ridiculous. I highly doubt i7 will ever be cheap again.

I think Core i5 will be filling the Core 2 Duo/Quad void a few months after release. It will intro more expensive but that is likely to change pretty quick.
You fail to see what Skulltrail is then. i7 is nothing more than the current generation high end desktop. Skulltrail is beyond that, high end workstation platform marketed as gaming platform. Skulltrail is far more exclusive and pointless than i7.
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#99
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
LGA1366 can handle both (DP Skulltrail/SP Extreme Edition). The only difference is the number of QPI links (one per socket).
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#100
Deleted member 3
FordGT90ConceptLGA1366 can handle both (DP Skulltrail/SP Extreme Edition). The only difference is the number of QPI links (one per socket).
The socket name can yes, the socket isn't pin compatible though and the chipset is different. So apart from having the same amount of pins (well, balls) they are not the same.
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