Tuesday, July 21st 2009

First Intel Clarkdale Core i3 Low-Voltage Overclocking Feat Yields 4 GHz at 0.832 V

Intel's upcoming dual-core derivatives of the Nehalem/Westmere architecture, codenamed "Clarkdale" seems to have some interesting electrical characteristics. The CPU component of the chip is built on Intel's brand new 32 nanometre process that facilitates higher transistor densities, and in the process, intends to bring down TDP. An overclocking feat by Coolaler.com seems to suggest one of two things: either these chips have naturally low vCore voltages, or that the overlocking headroom at low-voltages is exceptional. Coolaler used a pre-release engineering sample of the Core i3 Clarkdale processor on a compatible platform, and achieved 4 GHz of clock speed with the vCore at 0.832 V. The frequency multiplier of the CPU was set at 25.0x, and a bus speed of 160 MHz used. Intel will be ready with these processors by the end of this year.
Source: Coolaler.com
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121 Comments on First Intel Clarkdale Core i3 Low-Voltage Overclocking Feat Yields 4 GHz at 0.832 V

#76
TheMailMan78
Big Member
btarunrYou will. Newegg will tell you what you're buying, while reviews on the internet will tell you it's faster.
All of those sockets can't last. Which one has the longest longevity?
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#77
MoonPig
Bit late on this one... But three words: My F***ing GOD!

F*** i7. Im going this route! lol
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#78
phanbuey
MoonPigBit late on this one... But three words: My F***ing GOD!

F*** i7. Im going this route! lol
LOL but this is 32nm... just wait till the 32nm i7's are out... it will be S E X
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#79
Flyordie
Wheres the 3D06? Prime95? Is it stable?

I am tired of the double standard when it comes to Intel vs AMD. This is just a showoff for Intel... just as AMD did with the 7Ghz PII run.
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#80
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
.... that thit shits all over my xeon.
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#81
hungryburger
so does this mean I shouldnt upgrade to an i7 yet?
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#82
wolf
Better Than Native
hungryburgerso does this mean I shouldnt upgrade to an i7 yet?
you tell us. i7 still packs more power, thats for sure.
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#83
OnBoard
I have a feeling it's not that impressive as it seems.

65nm's needed 1.6V to 4ghz, 45nm's need 1.2V to 4GHz -> same -0.4volts of and 32nm's need 0.8V to 4GHz.

If that 0.832V is stock voltage it has 1000MHz OC headroom in it (the ES), mine does 700MHz OC with stock voltage.

But still very nice :p Now only problem is that low voltage Dual seems more interesting than current generation Quads. These will sell like crazy, if retails have same potential and quad core won't ever pick up in games. Unless it's indifferent to a game if it sees 4 threads or 4 cores performance wise.
phanbueyWait so 32nm... i remember that anything over 1.4v is no good for 45nm... I wonder what will be the max 32mn voltage - can't be much over 1.2/1.25.
Most likely true, if not even lower limit. Bump up the voltage and they'll go heat crazy, so it's nice they run fast with low voltage.
FlyordieWheres the 3D06? Prime95? Is it stable?
By the looks of it it's just XP stable :) So no.
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#84
phanbuey
OnBoardI have a feeling it's not that impressive as it seems.

65nm's needed 1.6V to 4ghz, 45nm's need 1.2V to 4GHz -> same -0.4volts of and 32nm's need 0.8V to 4GHz.

If that 0.832V is stock voltage it has 1000MHz OC headroom in it (the ES), mine does 700MHz OC with stock voltage.

But still very nice :p Now only problem is that low voltage Dual seems more interesting than current generation Quads. These will sell like crazy, if retails have same potential and quad core won't ever pick up in games. Unless it's indifferent to a game if it sees 4 threads or 4 cores performance wise.



Most likely true, if not even lower limit. Bump up the voltage and they'll go heat crazy, so it's nice they run fast with low voltage.



By the looks of it it's just XP stable :) So no.
That is so true - in perspective the chips are not SO impressive, but at the same time, only a few 65nm's could hit 4ghz 24/7, almost all 45nm's can hit 4ghz 24/7, a few can hit 4.5 24/7 - now if that trend continues that means that this chip is virtually guaranteed to hit 4ghz, and that many can pull 4.5ghz+ 24/7 with a faster IPC than the current generation.

THAT is what is really impressive - Faster IPC+4.5Ghz 4 threaded nehalem madness for cheap (i3) that is pretty nuts.
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#85
a_ump
i guess it's impressive, but it's kinda expected. as said voltage to reach 4ghz or so has decreased in increments it seems with die shrinks. I also think that the max voltage these 32nm chips will be able to handle will be aorund 1.2-.28v or so.

As for the argument of it performing clock for clock like i7...i very much dout it. it may be based on nahalem like i7, but pentium dual-core is based on core2 architecture but its performance is a good bit different from an e8X00 isn't it.
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#86
phanbuey
a_umpi guess it's impressive, but it's kinda expected. as said voltage to reach 4ghz or so has decreased in increments it seems with die shrinks. I also think that the max voltage these 32nm chips will be able to handle will be aorund 1.2-.28v or so.

As for the argument of it performing clock for clock like i7...i very much dout it. it may be based on nahalem like i7, but pentium dual-core is based on core2 architecture but its performance is a good bit different from an e8X00 isn't it.
so true... its like a 4.5ghz pentium dual to match a 4.0ghz e8x00... can't wait for the benchies of this monster.
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#87
Steevo
Awsome good clocks, wonder what the voltage limit is on these.
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#88
Rey17
imagine that on a laptop... with 5ghz... the possibilities are endless....
and yeah, that voltage is pretty low even for 4ghz
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#89
wolf
Better Than Native
Rey17imagine that on a laptop... with 5ghz... the possibilities are endless....
and yeah, that voltage is pretty low even for 4ghz
show me someone who has had a lower stable vcore for 4ghz :cool:
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#90
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
wolfshow me someone who has had a lower stable vcore for 4ghz :cool:
can i photoshop it?


Most people are :O over what my xeon can do, let alone something this low.

even if this is a rare chip, 1.0v for FOUR threads (dual core + HT + IMC) means one hell of a good deal.
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#91
a_ump
though i'm very curious about performance. i mean core2duo cpus well overclocked and core 2 quads run pretty much right on i7's butt crack :), so i can't really see these duals outperforming the current c2d/q as then they'd be real close to i7 performance as well and anyone looking to purchase a new system would go for those and use the saved money elseware in the system. So...i don't really see thses i3's being an upgrade for anyone with a solid core2 system. what do u all think?
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#92
Rey17
wolfshow me someone who has had a lower stable vcore for 4ghz :cool:
Musselscan i photoshop it?


Most people are :O over what my xeon can do, let alone something this low.

even if this is a rare chip, 1.0v for FOUR threads (dual core + HT + IMC) means one hell of a good deal.
heres you answer
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#94
HalfAHertz
Ehh, why is the DDR3 mem @240Mhz? :D Everest reading it wrong or sth?

1,25v for 4Ghz bench stable for an unrefined ES still looks promising tho.
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#95
Easo
AMD. Get the (sorry) fuck up! NOW!
Phenom's II cant hold forever!
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#96
HalfAHertz
EasoAMD. Get the (sorry) fuck up! NOW!
Phenom's II cant hold forever!
Yes, and in the cold winter night just as little Easo said these words praying for a miracle and looking at the falling star, Santa Claus came on his raindeer sled and with the use of his big magical wand to spray "fairy dust" on AMD. The little green dwarf kept growing and growing untill it was as tall as a mountain! The snow melted, the birds started singing and AMD went on a quest to bring happiness and smiles to every child in the world...

I don't hope for an AMD that can compete, just for an AMD that can survive this tough economical downtime. In a way live now so that you can fight another day, as they say.
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#97
vega22
it looks nice on paper but its only a 25% oc on what must be VID which most wolfdales will do....
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#98
OnBoard
L2 Cache seems faaaast on that thing, almost double to what I get with my 3.2GHz clocks (and latency half).

edit: if someone has Wolfdale @ 4GHz on DDR3 board handy, would you mind running that EVEREST Cache & Memory Benchmark? Would be nice to compare.
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#99
TheMailMan78
Big Member
HalfAHertzYes, and in the cold winter night just as little Easo said these words praying for a miracle and looking at the falling star, Santa Claus came on his raindeer sled and with the use of his big magical wand to spray "fairy dust" on AMD. The little green dwarf kept growing and growing untill it was as tall as a mountain! The snow melted, the birds started singing and AMD went on a quest to bring happiness and smiles to every child in the world...

I don't hope for an AMD that can compete, just for an AMD that can survive this tough economical downtime. In a way live now so that you can fight another day, as they say.
The Phenom 2 not only competes with the i7 in gaming but in some cases beats it. As long at the program isnt designed to take advantage of the i7s extra threads the Phenom 2 is a strong competitor and a good deal. Turn the fan boy down just a little bit.

I want to see real world benchmarks from Intels new offering before I get all excited and sell my rig. What looks good on paper or 3D06 may not translate into a worthy CPU replacement.

People laughed at AMD when they announced the Athlon all those years ago. Man did they change the face of computing. My point is anything can happen.
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#100
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
marsey99it looks nice on paper but its only a 25% oc on what must be VID which most wolfdales will do....
only the "good" wolfdales can do 4Ghz on 1.2v. Theres a lot of people on these forums who cant manage that stable, so its most definately not as common as you think. This can do it on ~ 0.85v, with an integrated memory controller (more power draw) AND two virtual cores.

Its doing it with a decent amount less voltage, despite the fact its got more hardware within it.
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