Thursday, January 13th 2011
Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II
Here, take some salt. AMD reportedly gave out performance figures in a presentation to its partners, performance figures seen by DonanimHaber. It is reported that an 8-core processor based on the "Bulldozer" high-performance CPU architecture is pitched by its makers to have 50% higher performance than existing processors such as the Core i7 950 (4 cores, 8 threads), and Phenom II X6 1100T (6 cores). Very little is known about the processor, including at what clock speed the processor was running at, much less what other components were driving the test machine.
Taking this information into account, the said Bulldozer based processor should synthetically even outperform Core i7 980X six-core, Intel's fastest desktop processor in the market. Built from ground-up, the Bulldozer architecture focuses on greater inter-core communication and reconfigured ALU/FPU to achieve higher instructions per clock cycle (IPC) compared to the previous generation K10.5, on which its current Phenom II series processors are based. The processor is backed by new 9-series core logic, and a new AM3+ socket. AMD is expected to unveil this platform a little later this year.
Source:
DonanimHaber
Taking this information into account, the said Bulldozer based processor should synthetically even outperform Core i7 980X six-core, Intel's fastest desktop processor in the market. Built from ground-up, the Bulldozer architecture focuses on greater inter-core communication and reconfigured ALU/FPU to achieve higher instructions per clock cycle (IPC) compared to the previous generation K10.5, on which its current Phenom II series processors are based. The processor is backed by new 9-series core logic, and a new AM3+ socket. AMD is expected to unveil this platform a little later this year.
424 Comments on Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II
I mean, I see AMD ads fairly often online...but that's about it. A big part of that though, is things like Google adwords prevents stuff like that reaching peopel who wouldn't normally see that sort of stuff...I know that alot of my internet usage is AMD-focused, so Google serves up AMD ads.
So again, do that have to power to actually market worldwide effectively? Probably not. But they do have the money to market to the largest user-base...and that's really, only the OEMs.
I mean, we both know that we already agree on all of this, it's just I do not see it as important as you do, unless truly done on a global scale.
imean really..AMd doesn't need to market to me, and it's kinda my job to market AMD's products to you.
Issue is the whole thread is not much more than speculation, at least this is an intelligent discussion with no feelings being hurt, let it go man!
that point alone, of course, leads to us discussing proper marketing practices. Logical way for the conversation to progess, it seems to me.
I see even less advertising. I think computers are a complex market because lets face it, as techies we don't want to see an advertisement. We want reviews, and we want to hear first hand accounts of other users experiences. Its easy to complain that we don't see the advertisements, but I don't think we want them as AMD's primary (consumer) audience.
As far as marketing on the oem/server sides. I don't know what it takes, I don't know what an OEM wants to hear to get a product, I would assume they want a lower priced product. It seems to be that all the major companies release both AMD and Intel based solutions regardless of which has the upper hand, I know more goes into the decision for which they use but we don't hear about it.
P.S. Marketing and Advertising are not the same!
I am V interested in this topic i see it as my next upgrade prob and i think you two should both be aware that a statement of performance is niether her nor there as it may have been put out to deter better competition ie downplayed so as to reduce the pressure intel puts on amd or generally be none sense if its actually true it is still mearly a guide as of what to maybe expect final silicon may differ greatly.
and i think if they, AMD flood the market as they will with loads of apu bulldozer derived chips and chipsets OE companies are definately gona buy as it means lower cost more profit better HD handling simples intels trying to move more towards corporately appreciated products (kill switch etc) anyway.. leaving home entertainment for ATI you arent going to see an intel CPU embedded in a telly soon but def AMD
"We helped bring you the stunning graphics in the XBOX360 and the Wii. You already own our products, with millions of consoles in millions of livingrooms around the world.. Now come and see what else we can do."
But do you think the AMD team has the balls to pull that one off? Or have they even considered it?
LoL. Like I said...I need to be AMD's next CEO. They NEED me. :laugh: Killing off the ATI brand was the stupidest thing done under Dirk's Reign of Terror. Too bad that terror was his personal fear of risk.
btw at least in my country AMD marketing is everywhere even right now(i see they ads on TV and poster in the street) i sell more AMD CPU than intel one and almost every game center and internet cafe use AMD CPU
My friends were going on and on about their nV & Intel stuff with screensavers, wallpapers, etc, & I thought let me at least find some cool AMD wallpaper to sport at a LAN too, lo and behold... NOTHING! Nothing on the entire intarwebz, well nothing decent anyway, and I was livid with AMD for not giving me, the die hard fan with the only AMD rig among an army of blue and green, even a morsel of brag-room!:shadedshu
Mind you, I did have among the best performing rigs, but you know how it is when the trolls gather... :p
and yes, the fans from my PC make it wave in the 'breeze'
also, random fact: i have a (distant) relative in the second blues brothers movie.
I'll be very happy if they can compete head to head with Intel, even if at the same price points. I'll be impressed/ecstatic if they can beat them at any price point. Either way, I can't wait for the release!
Secondly more and more games/apps will support multi threading as time goes on, I've already got a whole bunch of programs that use all 6 of my cores.
The rate that multithreading is supported will increase and actually only get faster and faster.
Eventually every app that comes out will be multithreaded by default ( free potential performance boost after all)
Also, bare in mind a some games you can fiddle with settings and force them to multithread :P
Sometimes it doesn't make a difference but other times it will reduce minimum fps/frame drops in general.
Cool!
he he