There is no argument...?

It's an observation on business practices that's it. And in this case instead of the consumer driving the market forward it's the companies.

That's it.

Everybody's right We don't need half of what we buy and (successful)companies set the pace instead of follow the trends. Evey one failed at the tablet pc until apple called it a pad and boom an instant must have(I still don't get it though). We're all sheep. In the pc world, there is little software that fully utilize a modern computers power.We should b looking to supercharge the software industry. Maybe Team Group should write software:roll:

Hayder_MasterBye bye blackbird

If I had a Hammer...

WhiteLotusThere is no argument...?

It's an observation on business practices that's it. And in this case instead of the consumer driving the market forward it's the companies.

That's it.

so intel's out there pushing new products that no one buys? there is no such thing as a company driven sale. None of these were huge profitmakers currently that intel just killed off because it felt like it. All of them had their hayday and it was time to retire them.


this is especially true of the 1366 cpu's considering they eol the same time lga 2011 comes out.

Gen1 i7 laptop cpu's and older could have been removed as well.
Can not think for the life of me why someone would want to buy Gen1 i7 anything anymore.

R.I.P. Q9550 I take my hat off to you old friend. :rockout:

vanyotsNot when you have to buy new MB and RAM for that relatively cheap Sandy Bridge.

What, do you want them to still be making P4's while they are at it?


These cpus have outlived their usefulness on the market. They no longer make Intel any money. It would be stupid for them to continue selling things that don't profit them.

To be perfectly honest, I thought some of these should have been killed off ages ago.

yogurt_21so intel's out there pushing new products that no one buys? there is no such thing as a company driven sale. None of these were huge profitmakers currently that intel just killed off because it felt like it. All of them had their hayday and it was time to retire them.


this is especially true of the 1366 cpu's considering they eol the same time lga 2011 comes out.

LOL

You don't get it.

Person wants a computer. Person goes to shop, buys computer.

Intel knows people want computers, Intel make CPUs.
AMD knows people want computers, AMD make better CPU, everybody buys AMD computers from shops because it's got "better", "faster" all over the box.
Intel sees this and makes CPUs better than AMD.
Cycle repeat.

Just for one second realise that only a VERY small percentage of computer users are enthusiasts, and you'd realise that a very basic computer is more than enough for most users.
People buy the computers and laptops that have the higher numbers on them. They think it's better (it probably is) but they have NO CLUE as to why, nor do they care why.

It's a business practice that Intel are doing, continually killing of the older processors so that all the Intel computers constantly have "faster", "better", on the box. That's it.

ensabrenoirEverybody's right We don't need half of what we buy and (successful)companies set the pace instead of follow the trends. Evey one failed at the tablet pc until apple called it a pad and boom an instant must have(I still don't get it though). We're all sheep. In the pc world, there is little software that fully utilize a modern computers power.We should b looking to supercharge the software industry. Maybe Team Group should write software:roll:

I still wish the mfg's would work on power consumption while the market is this way. We have seen they can make low power cpu's, and now is the time to do it.

WhiteLotusLOL

You don't get it.

Person wants a computer. Person goes to shop, buys computer.

Intel knows people want computers, Intel make CPUs.
AMD knows people want computers, AMD make better CPU, everybody buys AMD computers from shops because it's got "better", "faster" all over the box.
Intel sees this and makes CPUs better than AMD.
Cycle repeat.

Just for one second realise that only a VERY small percentage of computer users are enthusiasts, and you'd realise that a very basic computer is more than enough for most users.
People buy the computers and laptops that have the higher numbers on them. They think it's better (it probably is) but they have NO CLUE as to why, nor do they care why.

It's a business practice that Intel are doing, continually killing of the older processors so that all the Intel computers constantly have "faster", "better", on the box. That's it.

actually i get it, 99% of the people on here get it, you seem to be the hold over.

performance isn't the only thing gained with new cpu's but lets go back to my original quote shall we?

yeah I really don't get the argument against this? Sandy bridge is faster per clock than nehalem, a cheaper solution than nehalem when factoring in motherboard + memory, cheaper to manufacture, uses less power, and overclocks better.

lets look at the average consumer, for them the mobile market is huge and most are going to buy a laptop before a desktop these days. So lower power = longer battery life. Less heat = no need for a cooling pad and less heat on your legs when you use it. And at the same time you get better performance.

No, even for the average consumer getting rid of the old cpu's makes sense. Not to mention this is more than likely consumer driven infact all are. People want better and faster these days. Why do you think the phone market is so competitive? It's not because the companies are over delivering and competing with each other despite poor sales. It's because the faster devices sell better.

none of the eol cpu's were making intel money, ie that means poor sales. So why continue to sell them when the majority is out buying the newer cpus? You're not making a lick of sense.

Wile EWhat, do you want them to still be making P4's while they are at it?


These cpus have outlived their usefulness on the market. They no longer make Intel any money. It would be stupid for them to continue selling things that don't profit them.

To be perfectly honest, I thought some of these should have been killed off ages ago.

Yeah it's been some time now since 775 came out. Although it was nice of INTEL to keep them running as long as they did.

Although i see no real reason of going to a new socket just yet maybe when the 2011 socket comes out.

yogurt_21actually i get it, 99% of the people on here get it, you seem to be the hold over.

performance isn't the only thing gained with new cpu's but lets go back to my original quote shall we?



lets look at the average consumer, for them the mobile market is huge and most are going to buy a laptop before a desktop these days. So lower power = longer battery life. Less heat = no need for a cooling pad and less heat on your legs when you use it. And at the same time you get better performance.

No, even for the average consumer getting rid of the old cpu's makes sense. Not to mention this is more than likely consumer driven infact all are. People want better and faster these days. Why do you think the phone market is so competitive? It's not because the companies are over delivering and competing with each other despite poor sales. It's because the faster devices sell better.

none of the eol cpu's were making intel money, ie that means poor sales. So why continue to sell them when the majority is out buying the newer cpus? You're not making a lick of sense.

You know what, I can't be bothered. I'll concede. Just note that this sort of thing is common business to ensure they sell their newer stuff.

cheesy999They're only slightly more expensive then a 775 Mobo and ram, and the people this will affect the most is the OEM's, who will be building new PC's, and if you want to upgrade the proccesor on your 775 PC it's not as if there are any cheap and good upgrade paths anyway at the moment

You do not need a high end proccesor to play solitaire, and for that group of people intel sells celerons and Atoms, so your point is?

Exactly the end of Core 2 is not the end of the low end market by any means just people bitching about pointless stuff.

[H]@RD5TUFFExactly the end of Core 2 is not the end of the low end market by any means just people bitching about pointless stuff.

And they aren't even getting rid of the low end 775 market. They Celeron E3300 is going EOL, but the E3400 is still there at the same exact price point and the E3500 is slightly more expensive and the E5700 slightly more than that, filling the low end gap.

The other stuff that is being EOL'd has been replaced by new products. Yes, this means all us 775 holdouts that are looking to upgrade are now going to find it harder to do so, but seriously did you expect Intel to keep making those processors forever? They are now 2 generations old. If you haven't upgraded by now, you probably aren't going to. And guess what, they are telling you before they stop making them, so now is your chance to upgrade if you really have that in mind.

newtekie1And they aren't even getting rid of the low end 775 market. They Celeron E3300 is going EOL, but the E3400 is still there at the same exact price point and the E3500 is slightly more expensive and the E5700 slightly more than that, filling the low end gap.

The other stuff that is being EOL'd has been replaced by new products. Yes, this means all us 775 holdouts that are looking to upgrade are now going to find it harder to do so, but seriously did you expect Intel to keep making those processors forever? They are now 2 generations old. If you haven't upgraded by now, you probably aren't going to. And guess what, they are telling you before they stop making them, so now is your chance to upgrade if you really have that in mind.

Exactly!

Some people will complain about anything.