Saturday, September 24th 2011

AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks

The bets are off, it looks like Intel is in for a price-performance shock with AMD's Bulldozer, after all. In the press deck of AMD FX Processor series leaked by DonanimHaber ahead of its launch, AMD claims huge performance leads over Intel. To sum it up, AMD claims that its AMD FX 8150 processor is looking Intel's Core i7-980X in the eye in game tests, even edging past it in some DirectX 11 titles.

It is performing on par with the Core i7-2600K in several popular CPU benchmarks such as WinRAR 4, X.264 pass 2, Handbrake, 7Zip, POV Ray 3.7, ABBYY OCR, wPrime 32M, and Bibble 5.0. AMD FX 8150 is claimed to be genuinely benefiting from the FMA4 instruction set that Sandy Bridge lacks, in the OCL Performance Mandelbrot test, the FX 8150 outperforms the i7-2600K by as much as 70%. Lastly, the pricing of the FX 8150 is confirmed to be around the $250 mark. Given this, and the fact that the Core i7-2600K is priced about $70 higher, Intel is in for a price-performance shock.
Source: DonanimHaber
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854 Comments on AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks

#651
cadaveca
My name is Dave
erockerTomato, tomatoe. I don't really care the differences between "FULL RETAIL RELEASE" and release. But okay, wait. :)
Like I said, they can launch in the US all they want. Doesn't mean shit to me when I am not located in the US.

Comprende?

:roll:
Ahhzz@ cada wow.... aggro much? dude... less coffee in the AM :)
What you don't know is that erocker and I talk on TS nearly every day. That's just me, and how I talk; I don't mean nothing by it. It's aggressive, because I'm an agressive, over-confident dude. I'm sorry if it makes you feel uncomfortable, but you know, I'm actually laughing.

EDIT: And actually, I don't drink coffee any more. Gave that up a few weeks ago in preparation for my shoulder surgery. :D
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#652
erocker
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cadavecaComprende?
No hablo mi Mexicano amigo!

Yeah, I get it. :laugh:
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#654
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
TheLaughingManMexican is not a language. Its a type of food.
n a description of a person from Mexico.
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#656
YautjaLord
The mobo used (according to what the guy says in the post) is M5A99X with 1333MHz RAM me thinks too; CPU-Z lists the CPU as OR-B2 revision & not ES but as full blown FX-8120; how the f*** he got this CPU in a first place? Smells like either BS or some countries already get the CPU earlier; WTF? :laugh:

P.S. Looked @ SuperPI score (1M) - i think mine is lower, albeit it is OC'd; 25.xxx sec for 3.1GHz: is it good or not? 48.3fps in RE5 with 1280x720 res? So it is CPU score or GPU (HD 5870)? Other than that - you right: budget PC & actually strict budget one. :toast:
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#657
Inceptor
I would have liked to have seen memory performance with the NB overclocked. IMC performance is where Intel is lightyears ahead. While a 2200 Mhz stock NB is nice, for an AMD cpu, NB overclock performance is more interesting.

Edit:
Those are nice +15% and +25%, memory read and memory write performance bumps over what I've got @ 20% overclock.
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#658
TheMailMan78
Big Member
TheLaughingManMexican is not a language. Its a type of food.
How many Mexicans do you know personally? I grew up in a town full of migrant camps. My first girlfriend was Mexican as a matter of fact. They speak a form of Spanish but make no mistake Mexicans have their own way of talking that is unique to Mexico. Its a language.

Chingate culero!
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#660
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
TheMailMan78How many Mexicans do you know personally? I grew up in a town full of migrant camps. My first girlfriend was Mexican as a matter of fact. They speak a form of Spanish but make no mistake Mexicans have their own way of talking that is unique to Mexico. Its a language.

Chingate culero!
several dialects, its the same about being in Dixieland too.
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#661
Steevo
Sourthern aint not no danged a lauguage, its etts!
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#662
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
you makin fun of where i come from?
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#663
mastrdrver
Saw this linked over on the S|A forms. Don't know the validity of the claim, just thought it was interesting because I've read a couple times about people mentioning a software patch needed for best performance.

link
looncrazActually, we already have such an issue known for Bulldozer, and NO bench-marked system has the patch installed!

The shared L1 cache is causing cross invalidations across threads so that the prefetch data is incorrect in too many cases and data must be fetched again. The fix is a "simple" memory alignment and (possible)tagging system in the kernel of Windows/Linux.

I reviewed the code for the Linux patch and was astonished by just how little I know of the Linux kernel... lol! In any event, it could easily cost 10% in terms of single threaded performance, possibly more than double that in multi-threaded loads on the same module due to the increased contention and randomness of accesses.

Not sure if ordained reviewers have been given access to the MS patch, but I'd imagine (and hope) so! Last I saw, the Linux kernel patch was still being worked on by AMD (publicly) and Linus was showing some distaste for the method used to address the issue. One comment questioned the performance cost but had received no replies... but you don't go re-working kernel memory mapping for anything less than 5-10%... just not worth it!
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#664
ensabrenoir
We speak American:)....My God:eek: ...how do others actually translate their native language to ours... it like first you must learn proper English and then forget 75% of that and then ....the rest is a mystery:confused:
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#666
xenocide
I don't anticipate BD being much faster if at all faster than SB CPU's.
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#667
Inceptor
mastrdrverSaw this linked over on the S|A forms. Don't know the validity of the claim, just thought it was interesting because I've read a couple times about people mentioning a software patch needed for best performance.

link
Quote:
Originally Posted by looncraz
Actually, we already have such an issue known for Bulldozer, and NO bench-marked system has the patch installed!

The shared L1 cache is causing cross invalidations across threads so that the prefetch data is incorrect in too many cases and data must be fetched again. The fix is a "simple" memory alignment and (possible)tagging system in the kernel of Windows/Linux.

I reviewed the code for the Linux patch and was astonished by just how little I know of the Linux kernel... lol! In any event, it could easily cost 10% in terms of single threaded performance, possibly more than double that in multi-threaded loads on the same module due to the increased contention and randomness of accesses.

Not sure if ordained reviewers have been given access to the MS patch, but I'd imagine (and hope) so! Last I saw, the Linux kernel patch was still being worked on by AMD (publicly) and Linus was showing some distaste for the method used to address the issue. One comment questioned the performance cost but had received no replies... but you don't go re-working kernel memory mapping for anything less than 5-10%... just not worth it!
Looks like the Linux patch was being hammered out July/August:
comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1170214

Here's the last message in the chain, at the bottom of the page:
Re: [PATCH] x86, AMD: Correct F15h IC aliasing issue

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:57:45AM -0400, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what's the performance impact if the workaround is
> not enabled?

Up to 3% for a CPU-intensive style benchmark, and it can vary highly in
a microbenchmark depending on workload and compiler
.
Interesting.
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#669
Super XP
xenocideI don't anticipate BD being much faster if at all faster than SB CPU's.
If not faster, then equal we hope. Both are completely different in design, its going to be very interesting indead.
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#670
ensabrenoir
left hook!

Few hours more....then well know for sure. Wanna believe bd will be a contender. Few more hour til a major sucker punch to intel....... or to us.
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#671
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
if BD is actually powerful, this thread is going to make a fool out of a lot of people.
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#672
TheMailMan78
Big Member
InceptorLooks like the Linux patch was being hammered out July/August:
comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1170214

Here's the last message in the chain, at the bottom of the page:



Interesting.
This doesn't give much hope to Windows using BD properly then. How long was it before it used hyper threading correctly for Intel?
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#673
EarthDog
Musselsif BD is actually powerful, this thread is going to make a fool out of a lot of people.
Powerful is so subjective. T-minus what, 15 hours??? :p

There will be people, no matter what performance, say this thing is the best CPU since sliced bread. And if it does spank SB, there will be the other side spewing hate. Man, I have been around waaaaay too many product releases and forums over the past 10 years.

Predictable. People are predictable.

PS - Wanna take a bet on 'powerful'? :p
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#674
nt300
Wonderful, my baby is almost released I hope. Come on Bulldozy we await you my grace :D
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#675
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
EarthDogPowerful is so subjective.
More powerful then Gandalf "you shall not pass!" moment? or are we talking about a different kind of powerful here?
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