Saturday, September 24th 2011
AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks
The bets are off, it looks like Intel is in for a price-performance shock with AMD's Bulldozer, after all. In the press deck of AMD FX Processor series leaked by DonanimHaber ahead of its launch, AMD claims huge performance leads over Intel. To sum it up, AMD claims that its AMD FX 8150 processor is looking Intel's Core i7-980X in the eye in game tests, even edging past it in some DirectX 11 titles.
It is performing on par with the Core i7-2600K in several popular CPU benchmarks such as WinRAR 4, X.264 pass 2, Handbrake, 7Zip, POV Ray 3.7, ABBYY OCR, wPrime 32M, and Bibble 5.0. AMD FX 8150 is claimed to be genuinely benefiting from the FMA4 instruction set that Sandy Bridge lacks, in the OCL Performance Mandelbrot test, the FX 8150 outperforms the i7-2600K by as much as 70%. Lastly, the pricing of the FX 8150 is confirmed to be around the $250 mark. Given this, and the fact that the Core i7-2600K is priced about $70 higher, Intel is in for a price-performance shock.
Source:
DonanimHaber
It is performing on par with the Core i7-2600K in several popular CPU benchmarks such as WinRAR 4, X.264 pass 2, Handbrake, 7Zip, POV Ray 3.7, ABBYY OCR, wPrime 32M, and Bibble 5.0. AMD FX 8150 is claimed to be genuinely benefiting from the FMA4 instruction set that Sandy Bridge lacks, in the OCL Performance Mandelbrot test, the FX 8150 outperforms the i7-2600K by as much as 70%. Lastly, the pricing of the FX 8150 is confirmed to be around the $250 mark. Given this, and the fact that the Core i7-2600K is priced about $70 higher, Intel is in for a price-performance shock.
854 Comments on AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks
You have seen hundreds of examples in this thread already and it will only get worse when the benchmarks come out. ;)
I dont see in what world does the math ad up, that if the price for BD is lower, its the better chip to buy, if it consumes more power(according to previews) and you ultimately end up paying more.:confused:
and the SB overclocks great is a bit of a misnomer i have SB and it clocks like dog shit
I hit the multi wall at 44x meaning 4,3ghz is the max 100% stable frequency my chip will do. :roll:
from what ive heard BD will clock better, and dosent have a multiplier limit like Sandybridge, so
people cooling with Air coolers, all in one water kits, custom water, should be able to match or exceed Sandybridge. on a regular basis if my hunch is correct. this should result in an even playing field.
the next big question is will memory performance scale past 1866mhz
most benchmarks out right now are 1333mhz on all chips not the BD default of 1866, now Sandybridge does have the better IMC, but if BD can effectively overclock and hit higher memory speeds IMC bandwidth may also be negated.
its also been pointed out on xtreme system that apparently theres an issue with how Windows deals with Bulldozer chips. guess we just have to wait and see dont we :toast:
also theres issues like XMP profiles on the K chips overclocking all 4 cores to 3.7ghz when turbo kicks on with intel so theres a bunch of things that have to be kept in mind when comparing these chips the XMP profile auto clocking the cpu to 3.7 on all cores for instance voids your CPU warranty so Intel is pushing overclocking on all its K series chips and at the same time its basically voiding everyones warranties ;) theres alot to look at in the SB vs BD senario its all very very interesting
And you seriously have to have the worst SB chip i have ever seen. Most chips can do 4.4 on stock volts. Ever thought about changing the board?
But yeah, we will see how it goes tomorrow. My opinion is, BD wont be able to compete head to head with SB. But thats just me...
XMP so say your ram is 1333mhz XMP settings that auto configure your ram to run properly yea that voids your warranty and thats that basically Intels own creation there telling everyone to use voids the warranty and if you send back a chip that did die and you happened to use XMP intel will know and deny replacment and its not the ram its because the XMP profile makes all cores clock up
run manual ram timings with turbo on only 1 core clocks up ;) use xmp all cores clock up thus warranty void its interesting to note that distinction for us it dosent matter
but for joe schmo buying ram that says compatible with such and such use xmp blah blah well you get the idea
eitherway
BD i feel will surprise people by what it can on the cpu clocking front. but the reviews will prove that soon enough
also when looking at Bulldozer benchmarks see if you can find anyone running said benchmarks in Windows 8 ;) in 24hrs all the info will be available and alot of whats going on will come to light haha
XMP profiles up clocks to 3.7 or 3.8 GHz on 5 boards I have here, including ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, and Zotac, ensuring that you warranty is void no matter what you do. On 3 of those 5 boards, it's quite difficult and involved to get normal, warrantied operation of chips. A couple of the boards jsut up the clocks, XMP or not!
Gigabyte Sniper2 will not allow Turbo and XMP to run at the same time, in fact, which is one of the many reasons I say they need a BIOS update. Teh sniper is the worst offender, with anything over 1333MHz on mem(1600, 1866, 2133 all inclusive), it defaults to 3.8GHz on all cores.
at least AMD hasnt resorted to that
I just talked to Intel about this voiding warranty stuff. And while it is true, that your warranty is void when using XMP, there is NO WAY for Intel to know that. Confirmed from Intel themselves. So this problem is actually non-existant!
When you tell them the model of memory, this will more than likely indicate whether you've vioded your warranty or not, depending on how the questions are asked and answered.
I have heard of 4 different instances lately of denied CPU RMAs due to chip dying, and using XMP-enabled ram. Seems the qualifier for CPU death not covered by warranty is running over 1.5v and 1333 MHz on the memory. It enough that local stores are not carrying any memory over spec's for all platforms(1866), and are requesting waiver signing for no warranty from retailer when they do sell it as a "special order" item.
Read between the lines, and the argument isn't dumb at all, and you might understand why this is being brought up.
Anyway, why are we discussing this in an AMD thread? :laugh:
Oh, that's right, becuase it seems AMD is expecting enthusiasts to overclock to get the performance they need, but at the same time invalidate their warranty rights, as XMP does.
Bleh. It's monday for me. :laugh:
In the end, I am not going to recommend someone to VOID their warranty, and try to claim on said warranty knowing they've invalidated it.