Saturday, December 17th 2011

The Witcher 2 Contains Secret Sauce To 'Catch 100% Of Pirates'

Yes, really - 100% of those pesky "pirates" will be brought to book! The game's studio, CD Projekt RED (CDP Red) isn't letting on how it's doing so, either, claiming it's a "trade secret" and not giving out the name of the external company that's implementing the anti-piracy technology, claiming that to do so would damage their business. Seriously. The problem with identifying a dodgy copy of something is that the main info they have to track them down, are the IP addresses of the suspect. This has been shown many times over now, not to be a reliable tracker of who's doing what. At the most, it will pinpoint the account holder that it relates to, in some cases. However, this outfit reckons they've nailed this dealbreaking problem once and for all - and without any evidence on how they go about it. Snake oil, perhaps? The Polish company have therefore been sending out legal notices to thousands of suspects in Germany, chosen because this country has some of the strictest copyright laws in Europe. Presumably, they must be leaning on the ISPs to hand over customers' physical street addresses, although this isn't made clear, but read on for how this might be accomplished. In an email to PC Gamer, CDP Red VP Michael Nowakowski made the following statement:
We're addressing only 100% confirmed piracy causes that are 100% possible to prove. We are not worried about tracking the wrong people. As this is the trade secret of the company working on this, I cannot share it. However, we investigated the subject before we decided on this move, and we aware of some past complications (the famous Davenport case). The method used here is targeting only 100% confirmed piracy cases. No innocent person was targeted with the letter so far. At least we have not received any information as of now which would indicate something like that.
Notice how the Davenport case is "famous" rather than "infamous" - they actually went down in flames over their extortion tactics. Also notice how they covered themselves by saying "At least we have not received any information as of now which would indicate something like that." So, they could be targeting the innocent after all, they just haven't heard about it. Nice.

So, there appears to be two options to how this tracking technology works:

1 There is no technology and this is just smoke and mirrors (with a dash of snake oil) designed to extort marks into coughing up money to make CD Projekt go away

2 They really do have some "tracking technology" in their games. Now, what could this be? Well, as they're not telling us, it's only right and proper to be highly suspicious of what it actually does and to put it in the same class as common criminal malware. This is because the only logical way that they can track the individual in any semi-reliable manner, is to lift personal information off their computer. Let's speculate on how this could be achieved. It would include stuff such as email logins, bank logins, Facebook logins, network traffic sniffing to read the contents of highly personal and confidential messages and any other login where personal information such as a name and address might be kept. You name it, they might be doing it. This kind of activity is of course highly illegal everywhere, so no wonder they'd want to keep quiet about it. It makes traditional draconian DRM schemes such as SecuROM and the like seem like a walk in the park by comparison, doesn't it?

So, do you really want to install software that does some or all of this on your computer, just to play a lousy video game? Obviously, that's a resounding NO!

Regardless of how they track down suspects, this exercise is extortion with a legal veneer, pure and simple. This is because there haven't been any independent studies showing that "piracy" reduces profits and makes companies go to the wall - they have all been big media industry sponsored. However, there are several independent studies that show it does nothing, or actually enhances sales by indirect means, such as reputation spread by word of mouth. Of course, the powerful media cartels based in America, are able to buy government reps all over the world to make them pass corrupt laws as if all this "piracy" really was hurting them - three strikes, PROTECT IP & SOPA are just three examples. Consider the blockbusting sales here and here of Modern Warfare 3 recently. This will be the most "pirated" game of all, yet it still outsold all of Hollywood put together...

There is of course, one sure fire and legal way to beat a company that tries such dirty tricks: the boycott. Don't buy their products and don't pirate them, then laugh as you watch them go under (all the while still blaming alleged "piracy", of course). I personally wholeheartedly recommend this course of action. Once again www.techdirt.com is recommended as the site to go to, as they expose abuses like this daily.
Sources: TG Daily, PC Gamer
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345 Comments on The Witcher 2 Contains Secret Sauce To 'Catch 100% Of Pirates'

#326
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
FrickWell it is ungrounded. They say they want money from people that have not downloaded the game and have no single source to back it up other than it usually happens in other cases.
Look you, I'm busy with my 2011 tech article! :toast: It's a really big one and it takes a lot of time and effort to write. :) Damn, I need to eat dinner at some point... Why is writing for TPU so compelling? :D
Athlonitenotice sofar it's only Germany that's been hit with these letters I don't think they could get away with it in any other country without disclosing how it's being done

whether it be DRM or IP traking or some spybot/trojen in the game itself
Yup, you're right. I can imagine a place like Spain, where they have much saner copyright laws would take a dim view of this.
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#327
Wile E
Power User
I figured it wasn't any form of software installed on our computers.
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#328
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Wile EI figured it wasn't any form of software installed on our computers.
Ok, I'll bite, so how do they do it? Make it good and convincing. This one I've gotta see. ;)
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#329
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
qubitOk, I'll bite, so how do they do it? Make it good and convincing. This one I've gotta see. ;)
I think he used the phrase as "I knew they didn't do it like that" rather than "I figured out how they do it". But yeah it kinda came out of the blue.

It's still impossible to say anything about it without more information.
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#330
Wile E
Power User
I was referring to the torrentfreak link. It said innocent people are getting letters. That tells me they are just tracking IPs again, and that no super secret spyware is involved.

AKA: They are absolutely full of shit when they claim 100% accuracy.
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#331
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Wile EI was referring to the torrentfreak link. It said innocent people are getting letters. That tells me they are just tracking IPs again, and that no super secret spyware is involved.

AKA: They are absolutely full of shit when they claim 100% accuracy.
It said innocent people might get letters.
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#332
Wile E
Power User
Then I misread it, and we are back to where we started.

I still say it's IP tracking. Makes more sense.
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#333
OOZMAN
Haven't read the whole thread, just illegally downloaded this game. So I'm going to jail?
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#334
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
OOZMANHaven't read the whole thread, just illegally downloaded this game. So I'm going to jail?
Appeantly you didn't read the first post either.
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#335
Athlonite
OOZMANHaven't read the whole thread, just illegally downloaded this game. So I'm going to jail?
No your not, you'll just get a nice little scam letter asking you to pay some bogus bill or get taken to court

if I were you I'd ask for the proof and how they came by it

then come here and tell all of us so we know and the pointless back and forth can finally be put to rest :p
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#336
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Yeah it's totally a scam if he/she did download it illegaly. I never pay speed tickets either, it's all a scam man.
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#337
Athlonite
it is if they can't or wont provide the proof that lead them to accusing you

at least with a speeding ticket you can get proof it was you which is provided on request
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#338
Wile E
Power User
Athloniteit is if they can't or wont provide the proof that lead them to accusing you

at least with a speeding ticket you can get proof it was you which is provided on request
But what if they do provide proof?
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#339
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Wile EBut what if they do provide proof?
That would be interesting. In the meantime they're blowing hot air.
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#340
Wile E
Power User
I think so too. But it is a possibility, regardless of how slim.

What then?
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#341
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. ;)
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#342
xenocide
They already admitted they were back to IP Tracking. They just claim to be doing it "more effectively" than others, which still isn't true. RPS had a pretty amazing article explaining the whole situation. CD Projekt have nobody to blame but themselves if their game didn't sell well. Skyrim is a similar genre, and had no problems making money on the PC platform.
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#343
Wile E
Power User
It's more fun to cross it now.
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#344
OOZMAN
FrickAppeantly you didn't read the first post either.
Ahhhh.. I did..

Don't quite understand the point you're trying to get across. :wtf:
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#345
EnergyFX
Musselsi've lived in a house with 8 people, and the net was under my name.

so if they went to hunt down that one pirate, guess who got the blame?


this whole argument of "everyone who disagrees is a pirate" is just stupid. grow up and get off your moral high horse.
Then you would be a victim of who you choose to associate with. If you aren't the pirate then I would hope you would be able to defend yourself out of it... really I do. But if it's your network then it is also your responsibility to lay down some rules.

I never said "everyone who disagrees must be a pirate". That is actually quite a stretch from my words. I said one can't help but deduce that people getting so upset over this seem to be worried about something. Disagreeing is one thing. Getting all riled up is very different. Saying "everyone who disagrees must be a pirate" would be a stupid generalization.

And you telling me to grow up is probably the most immature comment I've ever heard from you (and a moderator no less? wtf?) :shadedshu I've actually had quite a bit of respect for you up until now. As far as this matter is concerned, a 'grown up' is one that knows stealing is illegal and wrong. A 'responsible grown up' is one that not only knows stealing is illegal and wrong but also takes measures to ensure such activities aren't performed on a network he is ultimately responsible for.

As for my moral high horse... nope, I'll sit here and exercise my right to spew opinion no different than you, the OP, and numerous others sit on your morally questionable (insert creature of choice here) and spew your opinion in opposition. :slap:

Disclaimer: I toe the line of hipocracy here. I used to download all sorts of crap. I guess I 'grew up' one day and decided to stop being a douchebag pirate.
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