Tuesday, May 27th 2014
Intel Core i7 "Haswell-E" Processor Lineup Detailed
Intel's next-generation Core i7 "Haswell-E" HEDT (high-end desktop) processor lineup, slated for later this year, accompanied by the company's X99 Express chipset, will launch at three price-points, predictably, succeeding the current Core i7-4820K, i7-4930K, and i7-4960X. The platform will herald a new LGA socket, which will have 2,011 pins, but will not be compatible with current LGA2011 platforms based on the X79 Express chipset. That's because "Haswell-E" will be among the first client platforms to support DDR4-SDRAM memory. All Haswell-E chips will support DDR4-2133 MHz out of the box.
Moving on to the actual lineup, and it begins with the Core i7-5820K. This is a six-core chip, and a welcome departure from Intel's sub-$400 HEDT chips being quad-core. Whether it supports HyperThreading, is not known. You still get 6 physical cores to plow through work. The chip also features a staggering 15 MB of L3 cache, clock speed of 3.30 GHz with a couple of notches of Turbo Boost, and a quad-channel DDR4 integrated memory controller. Oh, and there's the unlocked BClk multiplier. Sounds too good to be true for a sub-$400 chip? Here's the catch - its on-die PCI-Express Gen 3.0 root complex will have fewer lanes. It can spare just 16 + 8 lanes for discrete graphics cards. For boards with three long x16 slots, that would mean x16/NC/x8, or x8/x8/x8, with an additional x4 link.
Next up, is Intel's $600-ish Haswell-E HEDT chip, the Core i7-5930K. Like the i7-5820K, this is a six-core chip, but could feature HyperThreading. It has the same 15 MB L3 cache, and quad-channel DDR4 IMC. It offers higher clock speeds, of 3.50 GHz. Unlike the i7-5820K, it features a full-fledged PCIe root complex, giving out two x16 links, and one x8 link. This would be ideal for 4-GPU setups in which the two x16 links split up as x8/x8/x8/x8, with a fifth long slot still having an x8 link, to drive high-bandwidth SSDs.
Leading the pack, at a four-figure price, will be the Core i7-5960X. This is an eight-core chip with HyperThreading, enabling 16 logical CPUs. The eight cores are cushioned by a massive 20 MB L3 cache. The chip runs at lower clock speeds than its smaller siblings, at 3.00 GHz, and features the same 40-lane PCI-Express root complex as the i7-5930K.
All three chips feature TDP rated at 140W.
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Moving on to the actual lineup, and it begins with the Core i7-5820K. This is a six-core chip, and a welcome departure from Intel's sub-$400 HEDT chips being quad-core. Whether it supports HyperThreading, is not known. You still get 6 physical cores to plow through work. The chip also features a staggering 15 MB of L3 cache, clock speed of 3.30 GHz with a couple of notches of Turbo Boost, and a quad-channel DDR4 integrated memory controller. Oh, and there's the unlocked BClk multiplier. Sounds too good to be true for a sub-$400 chip? Here's the catch - its on-die PCI-Express Gen 3.0 root complex will have fewer lanes. It can spare just 16 + 8 lanes for discrete graphics cards. For boards with three long x16 slots, that would mean x16/NC/x8, or x8/x8/x8, with an additional x4 link.
Next up, is Intel's $600-ish Haswell-E HEDT chip, the Core i7-5930K. Like the i7-5820K, this is a six-core chip, but could feature HyperThreading. It has the same 15 MB L3 cache, and quad-channel DDR4 IMC. It offers higher clock speeds, of 3.50 GHz. Unlike the i7-5820K, it features a full-fledged PCIe root complex, giving out two x16 links, and one x8 link. This would be ideal for 4-GPU setups in which the two x16 links split up as x8/x8/x8/x8, with a fifth long slot still having an x8 link, to drive high-bandwidth SSDs.
Leading the pack, at a four-figure price, will be the Core i7-5960X. This is an eight-core chip with HyperThreading, enabling 16 logical CPUs. The eight cores are cushioned by a massive 20 MB L3 cache. The chip runs at lower clock speeds than its smaller siblings, at 3.00 GHz, and features the same 40-lane PCI-Express root complex as the i7-5930K.
All three chips feature TDP rated at 140W.
58 Comments on Intel Core i7 "Haswell-E" Processor Lineup Detailed
I understand why people don't want them.
Was hoping for the mid class Haswell-E to be at least an 8 core, considering there are already Xeons that go to 12 cores, even the high end enthusiast desktop parts are stagnating due to lack of competition.
That makes Haswell-E a though pill to swallow, heard rumors about some unlocked Xeons coming down the line, but those are probably going to be really expensive too.
Unless DDR4 offers a quantum leap in terms of performance, I don't see much reason to drop my X79 rig, it even offers the same number of PCIe lanes and I don't need m.2 as my RAID 0 SSDs have given me for almost two years the same level of performance PCIe m.2 drives are barely starting to offer.
Such a disappointment.... :wtf:
Haswell-E >> Skylake-E
There is no Broadwell-E DT, only for servers EX, al least according to wiki lol
I might upgrade to skylake-e 8core then, should be mainstream like this 5820K now,. Hopefully higher base clock at least 3.7ghz full load..
Imo this 3.3ghz now is kinda low for a 8core, Haswell per core performance starts to shine ~4.5ghz+ at 4.8-4.9ghz it goes berserk:D
However, as I said before its a readable assumption.
As to why people may or may not want it is likely an individual decision. Personally, right now I'd probably take a Core i7 5820K over a Core i7 4770K or Core i7 4790K but I would have to know a bit more to be 100% sure.
First the x79 debacle, now this. Broadwell and Skylake to the rescue!
Personal adequately experienced !!. When my i72600K canceled I sent representations because it was still under warranty . I72600 I get back !! instead i72600K ! regardless of the account which confirms the model dared to say that I did not have this model ! They were not even able to return consigned model which just goes to show how messed up everything and then they sent me the same model ( i72600 ) costs grew and grew but at the end of the antenna I do not have the right model yet and will not ... :(.Representatives of these reputable firms are regular drinkers who do not know how to read . They do not talk about greed which exceeds any normal rate. This is not Xsenon server processor to bee so ...
We need a revolution, not technological but ethical .
Glad to see though they are dropping the Quad core, its no longer necessary on the E series lineup in this day and age since the regular i7 lineup already has that area pretty well handled in my book.
www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=AMD+7850K&N=-1&isNodeId=1
What better do you offer for this money?
You can't deny that in lower mainstream markets, Intel has no competitve advantage at all but people still blindly buy them because of the halo effect coming from the upper tiers.
You need not only to excuse yourself with that argument but also to support the clause. If you understand what I mean.
Also, I think it would be wise to wait for DDR4 to come out first and see how it goes. Jumping on the first revision of something is never a great plan, even more so if DDR4 ends up being initially slower than DDR3, much like how DDR2 and DDR3 speeds (at the time of DDR3's release,) were marginal.
People can complain about what Intel is doing as much as they want, but complaints aside, I've been very happy with my 3820 and X79 despite all the flack people have given it and if I could have waited and got another, more modern, machine, I don't think I would have. It may be a while before I upgrade. :p
The PCI-e gimping is actually fairly welcome, given that some kind of gimping was expected. It won't be an option for people wanting 4 or more GPUs, but people wanting some CPU grunt and only 1 or 2 GPUs - great. Hopefully it'll actually encourage mobo makers to produce a broader range of more affordable boards, too, since the bottom part should be massively more popular than the 2 that preceeded it (3820k and 4820k).
My only hope is that they don't price gouge as much as they are with Ivy-E ... price increases for a much, much cheaper to produce (than Sandy-E) CPU series.
The new Devil's Canyon Pentium is looking like it is positioned to take down Kaveri. A sub-$100 2c/4t Haswell CPU will basically mean you can get a dedicated GPU and the Pentium (which will perform like an i3) for the price of a Kaveri setup.
The problem here isn't another platform, it's too little too late. Intel seemed to give-up on X79 pre-launch. If you don't believe that, then look at the planned feature list as opposed to what was actually delivered. They didn't even release a new PCH with IB-e. That smacks of forgetting about the HEDT platform, because it doesn't move as many units.
Now, Haswell has had a refresh complete with a new PCH. Seems odd that Intel could do that, but their HEDT platform is languishing.
Now Intel announces a completely new strategy. The "enthusiast" will be catered to. They intend to do this by releasing Haswell-e with a host of new technologies, releasing binned chips with decent TIM (at an increased cost), and delivering "new" chips regularly. Color me unimpressed.
I've had everything from SB to Haswell, and SB-e. Nothing released in the last 5 years from Intel really needs replacing yet, and this isn't going to make me want to spend any more cash. DDR4 is likely to suffer price hiking and low performance when it comes out. The holding hostage of PCI-e lanes in favor of more cores is absurd, and the nearly 67% difference in price between K and X processors, with a 33% difference in core count, is absurd.
Hopefully Skylake is worth looking at. So far everything since SB has been a massive let-down. SB did set the bar unusually high, but Intel hasn't done anything since then but cheapen production price and fix sales price to consumers. A sub-10% difference between processor generations is a paltry reason to buy a whole new platform.
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Spelling. I didn't catch the "buy," that came out as a but.
Don't throw away your money useless. :)
and the others are 3+ . When it's basically the same architecture, but they under clocked it to maintain the
appropriate TDP . If you OC this beast with water cooling It's gonna reach 4.5 + on 8 cores.
No use to by it if you will not heading for overclock since the performance per core is better on the others
unless you need those extra cores, but there aren't many programs that will benefit from them.
It is possible only by malicious people intentionally wanting to do damage on AMD.
Or by AMD haters only, reserved.
SOLD!
maybe I'll keep the new setup as long as my x58 rig. :D