So whats next Nvidia halting driver "optimization" for Maxwell

Kepler Part 2: The slowdowns continue

Coming this summer to a Nvidia driver installation

XzibitSo whats next Nvidia halting driver "optimization" for Maxwell

Kepler Part 2: The slowdowns continue

Coming this summer to a Nvidia driver installation

As predictable as predictable comments get. Going for that latest WCCFtech comment gold star to add to your sizeable collection.

XzibitSo whats next Nvidia halting driver "optimization" for Maxwell

Kepler Part 2: The slowdowns continue

Coming this summer to a Nvidia driver installation

This is exactly what happened to 780 Ti. Its just optimization for previous generation becomes least of their priority.

Im using a 780 TI, two actually.
No slow-downs, as its backed up by knowing its still generally faster than a GTX 970, not even considering its massive 25%+ OC.

mcraygsxIts just optimization for previous generation becomes least of their priority.

It's not a matter of priority. You can't take 3 years worth of Kepler optimizations and optimize them some more even if you wanted to. That's simply not how optimizations work.

Dj-ElectriCIm using a 780 TI, two actually.
No slow-downs, as its backed up by knowing its still generally faster than a GTX 970, not even considering its massive 25%+ OC.

Can't say I've noticed any general drop in relative performance with my dual GTX 780's either. Sure I can't enable every feature, but that's the price of progress.

BiggieShadyIt's not a matter of priority. You can't take 3 years worth of Kepler optimizations and optimize them some more even if you wanted to. That's simply not how optimizations work.

The law of diminishing returns. I'll expect big jumps in optimization performance when new games are optimized for older architectures.

No biggy; at least in the department of the 970 and 980.

Well you shouldn't have 2 of anything in SLI in the first place, as soon 980TiOC was available.
Now we are lead to believe that all of the GM200 production managed such high yields, just 256 cores were disabled and there will be no GM200 2560 Core Edition like the 560Ti 448 Edition at 279$.

Exciting times ahead, and soo much for nVidia being behind not showing working silicon blah blah fucking blah.

XzibitSo whats next Nvidia halting driver "optimization" for Maxwell

Kepler Part 2: The slowdowns continue

Coming this summer to a Nvidia driver installation

And you accuse me of trolling? Gold!

HumanSmokeCan't say I've noticed any general drop in relative performance with my dual GTX 780's either. Sure I can't enable every feature, but that's the price of progress.

The law of diminishing returns. I'll expect big jumps in optimization performance when new games are optimized for older architectures.

Funny my HD 7970 GHZ started its journey racing with GTX 680 later with GTX 770, later with GTX 780 and now its slightly slower compared to GTX 780Ti and GTX 970. Your definition of performance expectancy from a graphic card is quiet different then mine.

Bypassing those cards in 1-2 titles doesn't make it generally faster. the HD 7970 GHZ, or R9 280X, is still a much slower card than GTX 780. Don't delude yourself.
tpucdn.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

The 925Mhz HD 7970 is about 10% slower than the Ghz Edition, which according to this relative performance chart, still makes it slower than a GTX 770.

I'm running that 780ti Kepler card you speak of, and the fact is that it still runs past the 970 left and right, just like it did on launch of the 970.

It's a different architecture. 780ti wins in every game that doesn't use extreme amounts of tesselation. The Tesselation engine in Maxwell has been improved

1+1 = 2, Apples and Oranges, and all that. Also: get some knowledge on the subject before you start copy pasting Youtube, Twitter and Reddit ramblings that go viral.

jigar2speedFunny my HD 7970 GHZ started its journey racing with GTX 680 later with GTX 770, later with GTX 780 and now its slightly slower compared to GTX 780Ti and GTX 970. Your definition of performance expectancy from a graphic card is quiet different then mine.

And so are your performance numbers. A 7970 doesn't come close to a 970 or 780Ti. Unless you are believe 30% is "slightly slower". Look at that summary at 1080p...
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html

380x = ~280x = 7970.

EarthDogAnd so are your performance numbers. A 7970 doesn't come close to a 970 or 780Ti. Unless you are believe 30% is "slightly slower". Look at that summary at 1080p...
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html

380x = 280x = 7970.

= GTX 680/770 to translate it to green. (roughly) Nothing changed. Relax. *Tonga (380x) did give it some more oomph though.

They would do well to focus on Pascal:

www.anandtech.com/show/10249/openpower-gains-support-as-inventec-inspur-supermicro-develop-power8based-servers

More subscribers to Power8, NVLink's way in to the world.

considering gtx970/980 launched end of September '14, this is about time

Vayra86= GTX 680/770 to translate it to green. (roughly) Nothing changed. Relax. *Tonga (380x) did give it some more oomph though.

Quite relaxed. Just sharing some facts. ;)

There wasn't any IPC bump though.. it, like many of their other cards, are a straight rebrand with perhaps more memory or

FluffmeisterExciting times ahead, and soo much for nVidia being behind not showing working silicon blah blah fucking blah.



And you accuse me of trolling? Gold!

I believe you have 0 room to talk.

On a different note, just means great cards are around the corner.

GhostRyderI believe you have 0 room to talk.

On a different note, just means great cards are around the corner.

And you stink of double standards too, we get it, you an Xzibit are team red, no biggy.

FluffmeisterAnd you stink of double standards too, we get it, you an Xzibit are team red, no biggy.

C'mon Mr @Fluffmeister, @GhostRyder isn't bad at all. He's actually quite measured and decent. He's certainly not an AMD fanboy but probably takes exception to certain posts that 'snipe'. He's definitely not anywhere like the other chap you mention.

Genuinely, Ghosty's a nice person (I truly believe). And you're no monster either. Let's all hug?

the54thvoidC'mon Mr @Fluffmeister, @GhostRyder isn't bad at all. He's actually quite measured and decent. He's certainly not an AMD fanboy but probably takes exception to certain posts that 'snipe'. He's definitely not anywhere like the other chap you mention.

Genuinely, Ghosty's a nice person (I truly believe). And you're no monster either. Let's all hug?

Honestly, I think it's all part of the fun, of course I troll... it's the interweb! Equally I'm not blind to the patterns that emerge.

This nonsense doesn't bother me at all for example:

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-drive-px2-powered-by-a-pair-of-gp106-chips.221621/#post-3443425

Yet, when I make off the cuff remark in this thread both Xzibit and GhostRyder lose their shit, you'd think I'd just tried to firebomb AMD's headquarters or something!

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-outs-rsce-16-1-1-hotfix-improves-fallout-4-crossfire-support.219820/

Xzibit said I was trolling too! Get off your high horse, you BFF can't kiss you up there.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-outs-rsce-16-1-1-hotfix-improves-fallout-4-crossfire-support.219820/#post-3413423

Hey at least you thanked my post, people getting instantly defensive on the other hand is quite telling. :toast:

jigar2speedFunny my HD 7970 GHZ started its journey racing with GTX 680 later with GTX 770, later with GTX 780 and now its slightly slower compared to GTX 780Ti and GTX 970. Your definition of performance expectancy from a graphic card is quiet different then mine.

Seems like a fundamental lack of being able to interpret my post, and faulty reasoning if you don't mind me saying.

Allow me to reiterate:

HumanSmokeCan't say I've noticed any general drop in relative performance with my dual GTX 780's either. Sure I can't enable every feature, but that's the price of progress.

For those games I have played that have spanned a significant (or complete) portion of the ownership of my cards, I have noticed no real degradation in performance - the relative performance across games taking into account patches or games based upon a common engine. I also don't suffer from unexplained score drops in benchmarks such as Heaven or 3DM.
Now for a couple of points that aren't directly connected with what I mentioned but are related to your Nvidia versus AMD argument:
Games now (and in the future) generally aren't optimized for a Kepler cards. AMD does however have a vested interest in having games optimized for GCN - an architecture that also gains in relation to DX12*
Secondly, my 780's run stock at 780 Ti performance levels. Even with an older CPU at stock (as are the graphics cards)I don't see any 7970's posting similar scores to the one I've posted.

* If I have a choice of running DX11 or DX12 and the latter offers no graphical improvements of the former then I don't/wouldn't run DX12 if the DX11 code path offers better performance. This flies in the face of tech site benchmarking where comparisons are generally dictated upon a single code path and graphical quality setting..

FluffmeisterAnd you stink of double standards too, we get it, you an Xzibit are team red, no biggy.

You are clearly Green Team, yet the difference you and I is a majority of my posts are not troll attempts to derail a thread like your recent ones today on the Fury thread or even on your profile.

FluffmeisterHonestly, I think it's all part of the fun, of course I troll... it's the interweb! Equally I'm not blind to the patterns that emerge.

This nonsense doesn't bother me at all for example:

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-drive-px2-powered-by-a-pair-of-gp106-chips.221621/#post-3443425

Yet, when I make off the cuff remark in this thread both Xzibit and GhostRyder lose their shit, you'd think I'd just tried to firebomb AMD's headquarters or something!

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-outs-rsce-16-1-1-hotfix-improves-fallout-4-crossfire-support.219820/

Xzibit said I was trolling too! Get off your high horse, you BFF can't kiss you up there.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-outs-rsce-16-1-1-hotfix-improves-fallout-4-crossfire-support.219820/#post-3413423

Hey at least you thanked my post, people getting instantly defensive on the other hand is quite telling. :toast:

I don't spend my time trying to troll or derail threads unlike you. Heck your posts in threads that you clearly have no interest in are only there to try to troll/derail/talk down to others. Case and point...

Point is, once in awhile would be funny. Constantly is annoying from anyone regardless of the side is going towards.

the54thvoidC'mon Mr @Fluffmeister, @GhostRyder isn't bad at all. He's actually quite measured and decent. He's certainly not an AMD fanboy but probably takes exception to certain posts that 'snipe'. He's definitely not anywhere like the other chap you mention.

Genuinely, Ghosty's a nice person (I truly believe). And you're no monster either. Let's all hug?

Its not funny when its a constant thing regardless of who it is. I am just tired of his constant trolling on every thread that pops up with AMD in the title. Heck there are a bunch of people that do it far to often as well, but Fluff just does it at an even more constant rate then others and its getting quite old since it can and has started thread derailment (No I am not blaming him exclusively either since this thread basically suffered the same problem from others). I tire of constant derailments as it makes it hard to talk about the products or if this issue is a big deal when half the thread is filled with "My card is better than your card" arguments.

Report the post, put the user on ignore. Problem solved for you. Once the staff gets enough reports, the problem will officially be gone from the forums...

... though, their patience here over some troublesome posters, is frustrating at times.

GhostRyderYou are clearly Green Team, yet the difference you and I is a majority of my posts are not troll attempts to derail a thread like your recent ones today on the Fury thread or even on your profile.

I don't spend my time trying to troll or derail threads unlike you. Heck your posts in threads that you clearly have no interest in are only there to try to troll/derail/talk down to others. Case and point...

Point is, once in awhile would be funny. Constantly is annoying from anyone regardless of the side is going towards.


Its not funny when its a constant thing regardless of who it is. I am just tired of his constant trolling on every thread that pops up with AMD in the title. Heck there are a bunch of people that do it far to often as well, but Fluff just does it at an even more constant rate then others and its getting quite old since it can and has started thread derailment (No I am not blaming him exclusively either since this thread basically suffered the same problem from others). I tire of constant derailments as it makes it hard to talk about the products or if this issue is a big deal when half the thread is filled with "My card is better than your card" arguments.

You say you tire of constant derailments, then thank the very first derail post in this thread? Hmm.

You seem to think you can have it both ways, you thank posts that troll then get upset when I do it?

EarthDog summed up your solution nicely.