Wednesday, April 26th 2017
AMD Radeon Vega in the League of GTX 1080 Ti and TITAN Xp
In an AMA (ask me anything) session with Tom's Hardware community, AMD desktop processor marketing exec Don Woligrosky answered a variety of AMD Ryzen platform related questions. He did not shy away from making a key comment about the company's upcoming high-end graphics card, Radeon Vega, either. "Vega performance compared to the Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and the Titan Xp looks really nice," Woligrosky stated. This implies that Radeon Vega is in the same league of performance as NVIDIA's two top consumer graphics SKUs, the $650 GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, and the $1,200 TITAN Xp.
It is conceivable that AMD's desktop processor marketing execs will have access to some privileged information from other product divisions, and so if true, this makes NVIDIA's recent memory speed bump for the GTX 1080 a failed gambit. NVIDIA similarly bumped memory speeds of the GTX 1060 6 GB to make it more competitive against the Radeon RX 580. Woligrosky also commented on a more plausible topic, of the royalty-free AMD FreeSync becoming the dominant adaptive v-sync technology, far outselling NVIDIA G-Sync.
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Tom's Hardware
It is conceivable that AMD's desktop processor marketing execs will have access to some privileged information from other product divisions, and so if true, this makes NVIDIA's recent memory speed bump for the GTX 1080 a failed gambit. NVIDIA similarly bumped memory speeds of the GTX 1060 6 GB to make it more competitive against the Radeon RX 580. Woligrosky also commented on a more plausible topic, of the royalty-free AMD FreeSync becoming the dominant adaptive v-sync technology, far outselling NVIDIA G-Sync.
196 Comments on AMD Radeon Vega in the League of GTX 1080 Ti and TITAN Xp
If price is the argument, it also beats the P4 EE chips that were released many moons ago at a higher cost. It is great that AMD is making leaps and bounds forward in performance, but I would hope 3 years later for a product that was not only as stable as the 5960X was on release date, but had the performance crown it carried.
I checked the current ASUS offer of 4K LCDs and you know what? The cheapest available one (MG24UQ) has FreeSync. :) It's also the only 24" in this group.
In general, most people choose monitors based on manufacturer, resolution, size and looks - other properties (even matrix tech) being less important. By all means it is very likely that people buy FreeSync LCDs without knowing what it is and how to use it.
"In an AMA (ask me anything) session with Tom's Hardware community, AMD desktop processor marketing exec Don Woligrosky answered a variety of AMD Ryzen platform related questions. He did not shy away from making a key comment about the company's upcoming high-end graphics card, Radeon Vega, either. "Vega performance compared to the Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and the Titan Xp looks really nice," Woligrosky stated. This implies that Radeon Vega is in the same league of performance as NVIDIA's two top consumer graphics SKUs"
or, OR, it doesnt. Vega performance looks really nice could easily imply that vega is a $400 card with 1080 performance, or anywhere else on the performance spectrum. (as such a card could be 70% the performance of a 1080ti for 60% the price. see? its performance looks really nice) This, in no way, means that vega is a titanXP level card.
Why on earth would you believe anything out of a marketing director's mouth, ESPECIALLY when said marketing is AMD's? A talking alligator trading swamp gas is more reliable then AMD's marketing.This is the same AMD that decided to give nvidia more then half the GPU market, the end with super lucrative parts, on a silver platter while chasing scraps.
Somehow, I doubt AMD is going to have navi (or VEGA 2) ready to fight volta anytime soon. VEGA will most likely be pascal level, and three months after vega releases nvidia will paper launch volta and completely derail the VEGA train. I'd love to be wrong, but there is no evidence to support vega being titanXP level.
This is actually another article about nothing.Well, I guess it's because you already own a GTX 980 and even gamers rarely upgrade every generation?
By now the 1060 is a healthy 5-10% behind the 480, and the 580 is just expanding that lead.
GTX 1060 clearly beats RX 480, unless you cherry-pick AMD-favoring games. It even does better with it's 6 GB than RX 480 with it's 8 GB. Even though GTX 1060 is the least efficient Pascal chip, it still is much more efficient than RX 480. RX 580 only manages to close some of the performance gap, at the cost of terrible efficiency. Only a fanboy would choose RX 480/580 over GTX 1060, which is clearly reflected in the sales where GTX 1060 crushes it.
1) HBM2 costs vs GDDR5X? (Please provide link showing direct comparison)
2) Weaker than 1080 Ti? (Based on what? Link please)
They aren't losing marketshare anymore. The midrange-only 400 series was calculated to maintain marketshare while costing AMD very little money since their main focus is Zen.
Now Zen is out, and they can go for the high end again. Radeon typically only releases Halo Products every 1.5 - 2 years, and every time we come close to a product launch people act like AMD hasn't released anything "Because they can't! AMDead!". But IT'S A CONSCIOUS BUSINESS DECISION.
We don't know exactly how good Vega will be. But it is laughable to suggest that it won't match the 1080 Ti because it couldn't. It can, and most leaks point to it being able to at least trade blows.
^When you remove the Nvidia-nerfed games the 480 almost always wins, and btw the 3GB 1060 is lucky to be competition for the 470 4GB. That is, unless you like stuttering on an outdated framebuffer size.
Even when you throw in the rarely working Gamesworks games, the 480 typically only loses by 5% or so. I would say the extra VRAM and lower price MORE than make up for that. The 1060 fell quite short of expectations (Like mose x60 cards have the past few years).