Wednesday, October 25th 2017
"Not So Fast": Bungie Automatically Bans Destiny 2 PC Players With Overlays
Urgent message to all would-be Destiny 2 PC players: Bungie has enabled an extremely strict, no holds-barred permanent account-banning system with Destiny 2, which activates so long as you have any kind of application with process hooks / overlay features. This is true for Twitch, Discord, MSI Afterburner, OBS, XSplit, Skype, TeamSpeak, HWMon, AIDA, as well as some hardware vendor overlays such as ASUS Tweak and Corsair Link software, GeForce Experience's FPS counter... The message screen, "Not so Fast", indicates that players have been banned, without forewarning or any further explanation.
There's a meltdown going on in Bungie's official PC Support forums, where most of the threads have been started - and then added to - by banned users. In some cases, users are banned even before entering the character creation screen; some more fortunate ones can even get to thew first three minutes of the intro video. A post from a Bungie Forum moderator didn't do much to instill confidence: "In Destiny there are account restriction and bans,", Bungie moderator "Kellogs" writes. "Restrictions are only temporary but must be waiting out while bans are permanent. Please note that Bungie will not discuss or overturn account restrictions or bans."It's interesting to note that the same moderator indicated that some apps that might be incompatible with Destiny 2 - read, all of the above - would result in the game not launching, but not on a ban. This seems to be in line with Bungies' terms and conditions on PC overlay support, but nevertheless, hasn't stopped many, many users from calling that claim an outright lie. Apparently, a not insignificant number of users have seen themselves banned, instead of a game application fail to run instance.If you've bought a digital Battle.Net key for the game, and have been banned due to this inexcusable usage of blind banning, you may have some luck in requesting a refund directly from Blizzard support. Users who have bought a physical version fo the game, however, will see their refunds be much less likely.
Sources:
Bungie Forums, TPU Forums user @ One Moar
There's a meltdown going on in Bungie's official PC Support forums, where most of the threads have been started - and then added to - by banned users. In some cases, users are banned even before entering the character creation screen; some more fortunate ones can even get to thew first three minutes of the intro video. A post from a Bungie Forum moderator didn't do much to instill confidence: "In Destiny there are account restriction and bans,", Bungie moderator "Kellogs" writes. "Restrictions are only temporary but must be waiting out while bans are permanent. Please note that Bungie will not discuss or overturn account restrictions or bans."It's interesting to note that the same moderator indicated that some apps that might be incompatible with Destiny 2 - read, all of the above - would result in the game not launching, but not on a ban. This seems to be in line with Bungies' terms and conditions on PC overlay support, but nevertheless, hasn't stopped many, many users from calling that claim an outright lie. Apparently, a not insignificant number of users have seen themselves banned, instead of a game application fail to run instance.If you've bought a digital Battle.Net key for the game, and have been banned due to this inexcusable usage of blind banning, you may have some luck in requesting a refund directly from Blizzard support. Users who have bought a physical version fo the game, however, will see their refunds be much less likely.
86 Comments on "Not So Fast": Bungie Automatically Bans Destiny 2 PC Players With Overlays
But it was more like:
- manually banned 400 people
- overturned 4 bans from beta
- then they updated with an 'oops', there was a group banned in error (unknown number), but nothing to do with overlays.
Look: twitter.com/ShockAndShaw/status/923033887269257216
Just in case that link become nothing, This is his first reply "We do block programs from pushing their code into our game. Most overlays work like that. We don't ban for that tho. That's internet BS."
Dear Bungie;
Situations like this and many others[looking at you EA] are why PROPER and THROUGH beta testing is needed before releasing games and software. We, the paying public, are not your beta testers. We are tired of you treating us as such. We are tired of getting screwed over because of YOUR failures. And we are tired of being treated like criminals through sad use of garbage DRM, which has proven itself to be as effective as a screen door on a submarine.
I guess for now I will do it the old fashion way and record my stats for a few minutes then minimize and adjust.
Anyone willing to test if they can detect Riva's 2D vector? :D