Monday, September 3rd 2018
AMD Fast-tracks 7nm "Navi" GPU to Late-2018 Alongside "Zen 2" CPU
AMD is unique in the world of computing as the only company with both high-performance CPU and GPU products. For the past several years we have been executing our multi-generational leadership product and architectural roadmap. Just in the last 18 months, we successfully introduced and ramped our strongest set of products in more than a decade and our business has grown dramatically as we gained market share across the PC, gaming and datacenter markets.
The industry is at a significant inflection point as the pace of Moore's Law slows while the demand for computing and graphics performance continues to grow. This trend is fueling significant shifts throughout the industry and creating new opportunities for companies that can successfully bring together architectural, packaging, system and software innovations with leading-edge process technologies. That is why at AMD we have invested heavily in our architecture and product roadmaps, while also making the strategic decision to bet big on the 7nm process node. While it is still too early to provide more details on the architectural and product advances we have in store with our next wave of products, it is the right time to provide more detail on the flexible foundry sourcing strategy we put in place several years ago.
AMD's next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation "Zen 2" CPU core and our new "Navi" GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019. Our work with TSMC on their 7nm node has gone very well and we have seen excellent results from early silicon. To streamline our development and align our investments closely with each of our foundry partner's investments, today we are announcing we intend to focus the breadth of our 7nm product portfolio on TSMC's industry-leading 7nm process. We also continue to have a broad partnership with GLOBALFOUNDRIES spanning multiple process nodes and technologies. We will leverage the additional investments GLOBALFOUNDRIES is making in their robust 14nm and 12nm technologies at their New York fab to support the ongoing ramp of our AMD Ryzen, AMD Radeon and AMD EPYC processors. We do not expect any changes to our product roadmaps as a result of these changes.
We are proud of the long-standing and successful relationships we have built with our multiple foundry partners, and we will continue to strengthen these relationships to enable the manufacturing capacity required to support our product roadmaps. I look forward to providing more details on those innovations as we prepare to introduce the industry's first 7nm GPU later this year and our first 7nm CPUs next year.
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AMD Investor Relations
The industry is at a significant inflection point as the pace of Moore's Law slows while the demand for computing and graphics performance continues to grow. This trend is fueling significant shifts throughout the industry and creating new opportunities for companies that can successfully bring together architectural, packaging, system and software innovations with leading-edge process technologies. That is why at AMD we have invested heavily in our architecture and product roadmaps, while also making the strategic decision to bet big on the 7nm process node. While it is still too early to provide more details on the architectural and product advances we have in store with our next wave of products, it is the right time to provide more detail on the flexible foundry sourcing strategy we put in place several years ago.
AMD's next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation "Zen 2" CPU core and our new "Navi" GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019. Our work with TSMC on their 7nm node has gone very well and we have seen excellent results from early silicon. To streamline our development and align our investments closely with each of our foundry partner's investments, today we are announcing we intend to focus the breadth of our 7nm product portfolio on TSMC's industry-leading 7nm process. We also continue to have a broad partnership with GLOBALFOUNDRIES spanning multiple process nodes and technologies. We will leverage the additional investments GLOBALFOUNDRIES is making in their robust 14nm and 12nm technologies at their New York fab to support the ongoing ramp of our AMD Ryzen, AMD Radeon and AMD EPYC processors. We do not expect any changes to our product roadmaps as a result of these changes.
We are proud of the long-standing and successful relationships we have built with our multiple foundry partners, and we will continue to strengthen these relationships to enable the manufacturing capacity required to support our product roadmaps. I look forward to providing more details on those innovations as we prepare to introduce the industry's first 7nm GPU later this year and our first 7nm CPUs next year.
97 Comments on AMD Fast-tracks 7nm "Navi" GPU to Late-2018 Alongside "Zen 2" CPU
Just trying to point out that RTRT can be used for both professional 3D work and gaming.
For professional stuff it's already going on and RTX will just speed things up.
For gaming it wasn't really possible until now. And won't be possible for a while without ASIC.
For me RTX is important. You see... I'm getting old and I already struggle to find time for casual gaming few times a week. So the idea that I could get RTRT in games 2-3 years from now instead of 10 is big news.
And, as you can see, I'm a proud owner of a 1050. I paid $150 last summer and I just couldn't find a reason to buy anything more expensive. I'm fine with 1080p and this cheap GPU covers all games I wanted to play. Witcher 3 is the most demanding and I can easily run it at 40-50 fps with decent image quality.
But for me RTRT changes everything. Would I pay $1000 for these new RTX cards? No fu... way.
But would I pay $500 for a card that does RTRT and VR in... let's say... 2022? You bet I would. And now it suddenly became possible. :-)
Also, I'd expect RTX to speed up normal (non-live) renders as well. Wonder if that's going to happen.Oh... this is not true and especially painful for me... but also way off topic. :-)
I am not concerned with what you like though, or your perspective , anymore then you are other people's ,1080p died two years ago for me and no one's dragging me back their for one gfx feature , so you may be fine with Raytracing(ray based shadows and reflection not true Rt) at upto 1440p( really, like thats not the 2080ti and out of most people's reach anyway) but some are not ,to make me happy with rtx I'd need two or three 2080tis.
But im not expecting Rtx to work with sli either or its replacement so im out of Rtx for at least three years imho.
Even before reviews.
And as for game Ai i think he meant the current implementation of ai in game's, ie just big lists of if then's in effect not neural nets which clearly haven't graced a Aaa game yet.
Imho, AMD might release the Vega 20 as an iteration for mixed use as did with Frontier Edition Vega 10. It will help them sell it at a premium to cover the added cost for the 32GB HMB2. My hope is that it manages to close the gap to the fastest nVidia by then at <10% for logical power consumption. It could easily be sold for $1000, especially since it would probably be a limited batch. Navi will come in 2019 for sure and first iteration will suceed the Polaris class GPUs.
And man... I'm looking forward to your comments when AMD releases a GPU with similar RT solution. :-D
I'll be there to remind you all this rubbish and how 7nm Navi was just around the corner in late 2018.
Your gpu doesn't directly matter but does make your stance on amd ,polaris and vega strange , since you don't buy into such but are very very vocal on something you !read! about?.
I know of the other ai ,i have Googles Ai in my hand right now obviously, and you know i and he, are right ,modern /present games have strictly list based Ai and not neural net based , were talking consumer gamer tech so who's bringing pro use case ai here , not me so I meant purely Game Ai.
Finally in this thread i mentioned nothing like navi in 2018 ,i said possibly a prosumer 7nm vega, im an optimist but i wouldn't bet on that either.
If AMD doesnt make competitive GPUs, nobody will buy them, and they wont make money. At some point the division would get new leadership or bought by another company, and the products reinvigorated.
Vega 56/64 didnt sell due to supply shortages. If AMD had simply made a 3072/4096 core polaris card, and released them back in 2016, they would have sold well and made AMD money. AMD didnt get sales because they chose to go with cards that were difficult to make trying to pull a 3DFX.
I would rather have a cheap GPU that delivers 60FPS at 1080P with the eye candy maxed out, or 4K with enough eye candy to make it worthwhile.
Apropos the smaller chip, Vega 20 is about 2x smaller than 2080Ti.
But I don't think the yields will be great, and that's probably why AMD decided against a gaming Vega 20. Then again, who knows... maybe they surprise us later in the year. Maybe they push Navi to early '19. Time will tell
But you just can't match ASIC in this regard. And if you're not very into 3D rendering, then just think about crypto mining. :-)I can draw you even smaller theoretical chip if you want. :-)
2080Ti is here, it works and it's already traveling towards your favourite store.
My favourite store says they can deliver 22 MSI RTX 2080Ti Gaming by 03/10. It was "at least 30" last time I checked. So at least 8 people pre-ordered already (for 5800 PLN ~= 1570 USD).
By comparison, the same store sold 3 (three!!!) Asus Vega 64 Strix since launch.Navi could be an interesting architecture, but they've built the idea around 7nm. 7nm might just not happen fast enough. And the yields... oh my... the yields!
It's the HBM2 thing happening all over again. AMD wants to build an advantage using more recent, unproven and poorly available tech and they end up caught in all kinds of weird traps.
Now 7nm is the mystical saviour - praised by AMD believers in every comment (just like HBM2 a year ago). We'll see how it turns out this time. :-)
Mystical saviour ,tut. Ill be here to point out YOU alone said that.
You know how this ends, right? Nvidia will give us consumer grade 7nm GPUs before AMD (I mean available products, not fairy tales).
Actually, there's still a decent probability that Intel delivers their 10nm whatever-lake lineup before 7nm Zen2 and that would be really funny. ;-)
What would be even funnier is if Intel launches their 10nm and the products are still slower than AMD's price equivalents. That would (will?) be hillarious.