Monday, September 10th 2018

First Intel Core i7-9700K Review Surfaces

Spanish language tech publication El Chapuzas Informático published the first almost-complete review of Intel Core i7-9700K processor. Without Intel disclosing the pricing of this chip, the review doesn't include price/performance numbers or a conclusion that explores the competitive landscape. You still get a sumptuous serving of 14 tests, from which 9 are some of the latest AAA games.

The bottom-line is that the i7-9700K locks horns with the Ryzen 7 2700X in most multi-threaded tests except Cinebench nT; and owing to its high clock speeds, it will end up as the fastest gaming processor around the $350-400 mark. Interestingly, the i7-9700K isn't 33% faster than the i7-8700K despite 33% more cores, because HyperThreading is sorely missed. The distinction could be reserved for the Core i9-9900K, although samples of that chip are far too rare.
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Source: El Chapuzas Informático
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88 Comments on First Intel Core i7-9700K Review Surfaces

#51
Parn
laszlowill be good however for lowering the prices for both cpu makers
Wish this is true, but the reality is much worse.
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#52
efikkan
Batailleuse90-95% of the FPS in games is from the GPU,

intel having 5-10% more FPS I barely noticeable at best... I mean sure it's up to 10% but if you're doing literally anything else than gaming on your computer AMD crushes Intel in pretty much every professional use.
It depends on what you are comparing. If you're comparing a budget CPU vs. the top mainstream CPU with a fixed GPU in a budget gaming build, then yes, paying e.g. $100 extra for 5% performance is a waste, money which could have been put into a better GPU.

But when you're comparing similarly priced CPUs and one gives more performance, you go for the best performing one.
BatailleuseAlso Memory speed has little to no effect on Intel CPU, you can be having 2600Mhz or 4266Mhz you gain what ... 5%
Well, gains beyond 2666 MHz DDR4 in gaming are more like 1-2%, well within the margin of error, except for a few edge cases. It's simply pointless.

But more importantly, running memory at higher speeds depends on both motherboard support and the die quality of the CPU. Even if you buy a kit with a high rated speed and a motherboard which supports it, there is no guarantee you will be able to run in. And even if you do so, it will probably not be stable for years of load. High speed memory is probably the primary thing gamers waste money on.
BatailleuseNow Ryzen 7nm is on the horizon, probably going to support ddr5 at some point, which will Obviously boost even more its perf if Intel doesn't changes its Arch
Ryzen on 7nm (Zen 2) is still far away, and it will primarily compete with Intel's Ice Lake.
hatWait until the next major architecture (what is it, Cascade Lake now?), which should be on 10nm, to see what they can really do...
HEDT: Skylake-X/SP -> Cascade Lake-X/SP(14nm 2018) -> Cooper Lake-X/SP (14nm 2019) -> Ice Lake-X/SP(10nm 2020)
Mainstream: Coffee Lake/Cannon Lake/Whiskey Lake -> Ice Lake (10nm 2019) -> Tiger Lake (?) -> Sapphire Rapids (?)
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#53
TheOne
lexluthermiesterNot that I've seen. What games?
Like every graphic's card the 1070 is hit hard by Gameworks.
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#54
lexluthermiester
VanzettiOne of the worst tech web pages here in Spain, and this "review" is an example of that.
You joined up just to say that? Why bother? Do you think you're going to effect anyone here? Go away and crawl back under whatever rock you came from..
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#55
Melvis
Not really surprising, its what I was expecting really, its nothing new just a better binned 8700k.

The 8 core CPU's will be fast for sure and will beat out the 2700X purely because of clock speeds.

Intel is better at gaming because ring bus and 10yrs of better support most likely
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#56
londiste
MelvisNot really surprising, its what I was expecting really, its nothing new just a better binned 8700k.

The 8 core CPU's will be fast for sure and will beat out the 2700X purely because of clock speeds.
You do realize i7-9700K is an 8-core CPU, right?
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#57
GoldenX
It's another 14nm Intel CPU with an extra tweak in turbo frequencies.
I hope they can solve their 10nm problems, this is getting boring and repetitive.
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#58
Vanzetti
lexluthermiesterYou joined up just to say that? Why bother? Do you think you're going to effect anyone here? Go away and crawl back under whatever rock you came from..
Do you think I joined yesterday or something? I don't care what you think, oh holy lord of what can be said and not. I say what I want when I want ,with respect and without insulting or trying to give my point of view. Don't you like it? Ok I don't care.

Maybe you think I am insulting this webpage or something, but the truth is you don't know what you are talking about, you don't know that webpage, you don't know how bad their "reviews" are, you don't know anything about it, so shut up and go to cry elsewhere.
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#59
las
Chloe PriceI'd still go for 8700K instead, rather have 12 threads with 6 cores than 8 threads with 8 cores.
I won't. Especially not with HT bug aka Foreshadow.
Also 8700K is using pigeon poop.

8700K has worse gaming performance with HT enabled. 9700K is going to be an insane gaming chip, easily beating the 8700K here.

It will also beat the 8700K in content creation. Real cores >>> HT/SMT any day.
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#60
lexluthermiester
VanzettiDo you think I joined yesterday or something? I don't care what you think, oh holy lord of what can be said and not. I say what I want when I want ,with respect and without insulting or trying to give my point of view. Don't you like it? Ok I don't care.

Maybe you think I am insulting this webpage or something, but the truth is you don't know what you are talking about, you don't know that webpage, you don't know how bad their "reviews" are, you don't know anything about it, so shut up and go to cry elsewhere.
LOL! Tantrum much?
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#61
Melvis
londisteYou do realize i7-9700K is an 8-core CPU, right?
Ummm no? isnt the 9900/k the 8 core chips? and the 9700K is just a refresh of the 8700K? or did I miss something here?
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#62
hat
Enthusiast
Pretty sure he was talking about the source page, not TPU... heh
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#63
lexluthermiester
hatPretty sure he was talking about the source page, not TPU... heh
Does it matter? Whether or not they're smearing the review site, they are trash talking TPU for referencing the review. That makes their above comment contextually condescending and worthless, thus my comment.
MelvisUmmm no? isnt the 9900/k the 8 core chips? and the 9700K is just a refresh of the 8700K? or did I miss something here?
Both are 8 core. The 9900k has HT, the other does not.
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#64
Tomorrow
MelvisUmmm no? isnt the 9900/k the 8 core chips? and the 9700K is just a refresh of the 8700K? or did I miss something here?
9600K is 6c/12t refresh of 8700K. 9700K is 8c/8t and step up.
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#65
londiste
Tomorrow9600K is 6c/12t refresh of 8700K. 9700K is 8c/8t and step up.
9600K is 6c/6t ;)
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#66
Tomorrow
londiste9600K is 6c/6t ;)
My bad. I did not realize Intel had HT only on 9900K.
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#67
Melvis
lexluthermiesterBoth are 8 core. The 9900k has HT, the other does not.
Thats what I mean, but isnt the 9700K a 6c12t CPU?
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#68
GlacierNine
MelvisThats what I mean, but isnt the 9700K a 6c12t CPU?
Please read the first four words of the post you just replied to.
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#69
Melvis
ok well damn if indeed thats a 8core CPU then thats very under welling, im surprised honestly.

Good for gaming which I was thinking it would be, but multi tasking is down alot more then I would of expected.
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#70
londiste
On par with 8700K and within striking distance of 2700X is not an easy feat. 8c8t vs 6c12t and 8c16t.
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#71
John Naylor
Pre -release "reviews are just a waste of people's time ... why argue about what any chips is onna do ... this always turns out embarrassingly bad... wait till it's actually out.

As far as Intel "competing" ... with 79.3% market share and on an upswing over the last year, seems they doing just fine. OTOH, AMD has dropped from 22.3% in Q3 2017 to 20.7 in Q3 2018.... holding their own and still up from Q3 2016 but not exactly "nailing it"
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#72
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterYou joined up just to say that? Why bother? Do you think you're going to effect anyone here? Go away and crawl back under whatever rock you came from..
WTF man? Maybe he's from Spain and has some input we might not otherwise know? Why the vehement response?
lexluthermiesterDoes it matter? Whether or not they're smearing the review site, they are trash talking TPU for referencing the review.
Maybe, maybe not? I did not read his initial post that way.

So yeah, it kinda does.
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#73
lexluthermiester
R-T-BWTF man? Maybe he's from Spain and has some input we might not otherwise know? Why the vehement response?
Maybe, maybe not? I did not read his initial post that way.
So yeah, it kinda does.
Their OP seem needlessly hostile at TPU. Maybe it was just me.
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#74
hat
Enthusiast
lexluthermiesterTheir OP seem needlessly hostile at TPU. Maybe it was just me.
I didn't think it was aimed at TPU at all, more so the source site.
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#75
Bluescreendeath
dwadeThe world's first gaming 8 core CPU. Thanks Intel!
dwade5820k games well because Intel can add more cores without compromising gaming performance. And the 5820k is a HEDT; it's supposed to do well in gaming.
Your comments make no sense because the Ryzen 2 performs fine in games, and models such as the 2600X and 2700X perform just as well as the 5820k in gaming benchmarks.


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