Bring assembly back to the US while you're at it. Or at the very least, "Not China". Go to the damn Congo if you have to. Is that too much to ask?

StrayKATBring assembly back to the US while you're at it. Or at the very least, "Not China". Go to the damn Congo if you have to. Is that too much to ask?

Most of the older gen chips were designed at the main plant in Isreal IIRC

king of swag187Most of the older gen chips were designed at the main plant in Isreal IIRC

Yeah, they moved out, didn't they?

I'm not really concerned about design per se though. Like I said in that SM thread - they're designed in the USA too. Didn't stop their products from having digital Gonorrhea.

24 hours? god damn !
I feels bad for the workers in factory already, imagine your phone rings while you sleeping.

king of swag187Most of the older gen chips were designed at the main plant in Isreal IIRC

New ones as well, also 22nm chips. But thats the silicone, IHS assembly is outsourced to factories in Malaysia and Costa Rica. China does not have any large effect on intel's chip side. It may have on retail packaging

dj-electricNew ones as well, also 22nm chips. But thats the silicone, IHS assembly is outsourced to factories in Malaysia abd Costa Rica

My bad. Not sure why I thought they downsized in Israel.

StrayKATMy bad. Not sure why I thought they downsized in Israel.

Since the 70s the Israeli and American teams cooperated in development of the micro archs. In recent years the Israeli team is the one behind the design of 'bridge' architectures, Skylake and Coffee Lake.

They are being designed and researched in a huge facility in the north, and manufactured in the south, as well as the American fabs.

Currently under expansion is the south factory to include 10nm production alongside 14-22nm. Almost all 14nm products currently come from the American fabs.

That's it, some insight :)

StrayKATBring assembly back to the US while you're at it. Or at the very least, "Not China". Go to the damn Congo if you have to. Is that too much to ask?

If they did that the price of your Intel processors would skyrocket. The infrastructure is already in China, safety rules are significantly more lax, and labour is a hell of a lot cheaper. People are moaning about the price of Intel processors now, if they brought manufacturing to the US things would be far, far more expensive.

hmm.. and what should that mean to "us" customers?!

Your are working at your full capacity and your are not responsible of prices increases?

Xaledhmm.. and what should that mean to "us" customers?!

Your are working at your full capacity and your are not responsible of prices increases?

American workers cost more... of course Intel is always going to be higher priced for this reason, but it also means American jobs. I would need to see the full numbers though before I finalised that statement.

RCoonIf they did that the price of your Intel processors would skyrocket. The infrastructure is already in China, safety rules are significantly more lax, and labour is a hell of a lot cheaper. People are moaning about the price of Intel processors now, if they brought manufacturing to the US things would be far, far more expensive.

It's turning out to not be so cheap, even with the paltry wages in China. The US is losing it's older financial status because of China, with a dose of espionage and theft to boot.

Then again, maybe the US deserves it. Leaders here think in terms of "5 year plans", while China looks a hundred years in the future.

This is one weird headline / article if you ask me.

What's the point of telling us this? Does Intel want a cookie or something

Vayra86This is one weird headline / article if you ask me.

What's the point of telling us this? Does Intel want a cookie or something

They want us to know they have one day off every 4 years: February 29th ...

It's run by robots, why is this even news...

chaosmassive24 hours? god damn !
I feels bad for the workers in factory already, imagine your phone rings while you sleeping.

Seriously.... surely you don't believe that the workers are working 24 hour shifts, right ? (well maybe in china, which would be yet one more reason to get the f*ck out of there)

I feel absolutely ZERO apathy for intel, they wanna be the top dog in the chip biz, so they gotta do what they gotta do to make it happen.......

As in " if'n ya wanna play, ya gotsta pay" :D

bonehead123Seriously.... surely you don't believe that the workers are working 24 hour shifts, right ? (well maybe in china, which would be yet one more reason to get the f*ck out of there)

I feel absolutely ZERO apathy for intel, they wanna be the top dog in the chip biz, so they gotta do what they gotta do to make it happen.......

As in " if'n ya wanna play, ya gotsta pay" :D

while certainly they are not working 24 hours a day, there is gotta be a hiccup that need to be addressed immediately at factory
when PIC is not on his shift, his colleague will call him to fix some issues.

I am not talking Intel as company, but its employees.

Good job Intel for doing what countless other big companies in the world are doing too without the need to post headlines about it.

Vayra86What's the point of telling us this? Does Intel want a cookie or something

Slow news day.

StrayKATBring assembly back to the US while you're at it. Or at the very least, "Not China". Go to the damn Congo if you have to. Is that too much to ask?

Intel Corp.'s U.S. manufacturing and research and development facilities are in Oregon, Arizona and New Mexico.

As for assembly...

RCoonIf they did that the price of your Intel processors would skyrocket. The infrastructure is already in China, safety rules are significantly more lax, and labour is a hell of a lot cheaper. People are moaning about the price of Intel processors now, if they brought manufacturing to the US things would be far, far more expensive.

There is a reason Intel doesn't launch a special "made in the USA" line of Intel CPUs. No one would buy it.

bonehead123well maybe in china, which would be yet one more reason to get the f*ck out of there

Nope. Not even in China as I'm sure even the party knows workers last longer if they sleep. It's beneficial to life. You literally need sleep about as much as you need water to live.

R-T-BAs for assembly...



There is a reason Intel doesn't launch a special "made in the USA" line of Intel CPUs. No one would buy it.

Like I said though, China is becoming expensive anyways. It's just not as tangible and requires people to think longterm.

StrayKATLike I said though, China is becoming expensive anyways. It's just not as tangible and requires people to think longterm.

Earth is becoming expensive. :laugh:

Vayra86This is one weird headline / article if you ask me.

What's the point of telling us this? Does Intel want a cookie or something

Maybe Intel likes to test which media outlets support them from time to time. Stuff like this is not news, and raises questions as to why it's even posted here in the first place.

stimpy88Maybe Intel likes to test which media outlets support them from time to time. Stuff like this is not news, and raises questions as to why it's even posted here in the first place.

TPU regularly posts press releases for several companies. This is hardly a recent development.

StrayKATIt's turning out to not be so cheap, even with the paltry wages in China. The US is losing it's older financial status because of China, with a dose of espionage and theft to boot.

Then again, maybe the US deserves it. Leaders here think in terms of "5 year plans", while China looks a hundred years in the future.

The US is not losing its technological and financial advantage "because of China". The US is losing its technological and financial advantage "because US Corporate Executives have decided they do not want build anything in this or any other country that pays a living wage." Building here means lower year end bonuses and stock options.

John NaylorThe US is not losing its technological and financial advantage "because of China". The US is losing its technological and financial advantage "because US Corporate Executives have decided they do not want build anything in this or any other country that pays a living wage." Building here means lower year end bonuses and stock options.

Don't get me wrong. I blame them first. China is just shorthand for a whole slew of issues of people basically just competing for their own profitability without any regard to the integrity of a system (let alone a land/nation that they come from). Globalism itself is the real enemy.