Sunday, October 28th 2018

NVIDIA's GDDR5X-varnished GTX 1060 Only Ticks at 8.8 Gbps Over 192-bit

NVIDIA is rushing in a new variant of its GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB graphics card to counter AMD's Radeon RX 590, in a bid to reinforce the $250 price-point ahead of the crucial Holiday season. According to specifications of the GTX 1060 6 GB GDDR5X put out by Palit, the GDDR5X version is a little more than a marketing stunt, with something in there for overclockers. The GTX 1060 GamingPro OC+ from Palit is by no means a "baseline" product. It features 6 GB of GDDR5X memory, which ticks at 8800 MHz (GDDR5X effective), and continues to have a 192-bit wide memory interface. At this speed, the GPU ends up with 211.2 GB/s of memory bandwidth.

Of course, this story is incomplete without context. Back in 2017, NVIDIA refreshed the GTX 1060 6 GB with 9 Gbps GDDR5 memory (216 GB/s). That variant, although available in some places, isn't the predominant GTX 1060 6 GB variant, as NVIDIA did not retire the original 8 Gbps GTX 1060 6 GB with its launch. This new GDDR5X variant comes with even lower memory clock and bandwidth than that 9 Gbps refresh. The card still only has 1,280 CUDA cores, and the GPU is factory-overclocked by Palit at 1531 MHz core, and 1746 MHz GPU Boost. At best, GDDR5X could vastly improve overclocking headroom, since NVIDIA's partners could be using 10 Gbps-rated GDDR5X chips, which are known to overclock well beyond 11 Gbps.
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43 Comments on NVIDIA's GDDR5X-varnished GTX 1060 Only Ticks at 8.8 Gbps Over 192-bit

#27
Vayra86
Probably bad bins or even memory that didn't pass quality standards to be passed off to anything else but this. I think you can be sorely dissappointed if you think you will clock this up to proper GDDR5X values.

The irony is they're using this to counter an AMD rebrand of a rebrand of a rebrand.

Sadness all over, zero progress, no price cut, worse quality.
Vya DomusYou might want to check back on that.
Who cares, you stand to gain a whole percent at best.
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#28
Vya Domus
Midland Dogstill not gonna beat the standard 6gb 1060
You might want to check back on that.
Vayra86Who cares, you stand to gain a whole percent at best.
It's more than 1 percent but whatever. Funny, back when these were new 1 percent made all the fanboys lose their minds, now nobody cares apparently.
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#29
jabbadap
yotano211They might have had some extra memory chips lying around.
Probably both gp104s and gddr5x:ses laying around. I would not be surprised if this is some kind of bundle deal for AIBs by nvidia for getting rid of Pascals(XX amount of Pascals gives you X amount of Turings).
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#30
Vayra86
Vya DomusYou might want to check back on that.



It's more than 1 percent but whatever. Funny, back when these were new 1 percent made all the fanboys lose their minds, now nobody cares apparently.
No? The 9 Gbps / 11Gbps refreshes were bullshit from beginning to end. 4% is the highest gain I've seen across all refreshed cards - on the 1080. The real difference in 1060's is caused by shader count and VRAM capacity.

1 percent, 4 percent, its all irrelevant really. The bottom line is: none of these 'versions' are noticeably faster in any use case.
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#31
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Manu_PTTbh who got a 6700k + 1080ti in 2016 isnt missing a lot either.
depends what rez and refresh rate. i plan to do 4k 90hz gsync, assuming they make those monitors someday at a reasonable price. im mainly waiting on monitors to satisfy before i do my final silicon build.

your looking at 50% better perofrmance on a 2080 ti vs 1080 ti. at 4k in a lot of games, once the 2080 ti is boosting to 2050 core
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#32
bug
My takeaway from this move is GTX 1060 won't have a proper successor for quite some time.
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#33
yotano211
bugMy takeaway from this move is GTX 1060 won't have a proper successor for quite some time.
Im sure the 2060 will be out within a few months.
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#34
bug
yotano211Im sure the 2060 will be out within a few months.
Why would they bother with this, if a successor was so close then? Is there a GDDR5 shortage Nvidia had to work around?
My guess (and ti's just a guess) is Nvidia hasn't figured out how to cut Turing into a mid-range card just yet. If they axe RTX they get cheaper silicone and more earthly prices, but then the base to build RTX on doesn't expand beyond high-end hardware. If they keep RTX but they cut it down accordingly, they get a larger installed base for RTX, but then owner would have to start sacrificing IQ even at FHD to enable RTX.
Personally, I don't really care which way they go (wasn't planning on upgrading this generation anyway), but I do think it's possible they haven't decided on the above just yet.
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#35
WikiFM
rtwjunkieWhat premium? Their purpose, as they said, was to compete against the RX590 at the $250 price point.
I really doubt they will cost $250, either 1060 5X or 590. They can say whatever but actual prices will be higher.
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#36
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
WikiFMI really doubt they will cost $250, either 1060 5X or 590. They can say whatever but actual prices will be higher.
Yeah, you may be correct. I took a quick look at GTX 1060 gddr5 prices and all but the very cheapest of them are running $290 and up right now.
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#37
jmcosta
Its just a refresh with a minor performance change that will cost a small extra just like the RX590

Good for those that have an old card and are looking for mid-end upgrade

why people are being so negative about it geez
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#38
Midland Dog
yotano211Im sure the 2060 will be out within a few months.
when gp106 dies are out is my best guess, heck even until entry level gp104s are all gone, who knows how fast the 2060 is gonna be in standard games, i say make a GT106 identical core to rtx 2070 just no raytracing, should go ham and be able to made cheap coz the smaller die, first time a __60 card had 64 rops and a 256 bit mem bus if they do this
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#39
bug
jmcostaIts just a refresh with a minor performance change that will cost a small extra just like the RX590

Good for those that have an old card and are looking for mid-end upgrade

why people are being so negative about it geez
Because Nvidia? I don't recall people freaking out when AMD put the RX580 sticker on RX480 cards.
Sure, it's weird to have the (slightly cut down) GTX 1060 3GB, GTX 1060 6GB and now this GTX 1060 GDDR5X edition all thrown under the same model number, but since they all perform about the same, it's doubtful anyone outside of forums nitpickers really cares.
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#40
_larry
My R9 290 that was released in 2013 has a memory bus width of 512-bits and has a bandwidth of 320Gb/s...
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#41
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
_larryMy R9 290 that was released in 2013 has a memory bus width of 512-bits and has a bandwidth of 320Gb/s...
Yea it was also amd's top tier card of the time it and the 290X shared that spot...
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#42
GoldenX
This is my first 256-bit one...
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#43
Berfs1
lynx29yep exactly. the death of silicon approached faster than anyone anticipated I think, and these companies know it, so they are dragging it as long as possible. Also why nvidia keeps focusing on software features instead of performance growth.

contrary to what you say though, i am considering a 9700k and rtx 2080 ti build, I know it is bad value, but I honestly don't see anything beating its performance for 5 years... i mean noticeably beating its performance... might as well invest now and retire, until silicon is replaced.

i might wait one more generation... 3080 ti versus intel dedicated gpu in 2020... i have no hope left for AMD competing at the high end anymore... Intel prob won't be optimized enough for older games though, so prob will do a 10nm intel chip and a 3080 ti, regardless of price... should last me until silicon is replaced or not replaced, either way i won't be missing out on performance much
I'd stick with either the 1080 Ti, Titan Xp, or Quadro RTX 6000/8000, or Titan V. I would suggest anything but the 2080/Ti because of the current problems.
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