Wednesday, February 13th 2019
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Intel Core i9-9990XE OEM-only, Even Then it's a Lottery
In a sign of just how arid the DIY retail channel has become for Intel, Tom's Hardware reports that the new socket flagship LGA2066 HEDT processor model Intel sneaked into its product-stack, the Core i9-9990XE, is restricted to the OEM/SI (system integrator) channel. Even to OEMs, ordering a tray of i9-9990XE chips isn't as simple as ordering other chips, such as the i9-9900K. Apparently, Intel has been running secret online auctions that are OEM-only, for these chips. OEMs get to bid on the per-chip price in n-unit tray quantities.
Workstation integrator Puget Systems was able to score itself some i9-9990XE inventory at USD $2,300 per chip. Puget Systems last week received its first batch of chips from Intel, and released performance benchmarks. At this price, the i9-9990XE is being sold at a 21% premium over the retail-channel SEP price of the i9-9980XE, and a whopping 65% premium over the i9-9940X. Intel can't shake off comparisons between the i9-9990XE and the i9-9940X because both chips are 14-core/28-thread with 19.25 MB shared L3 cache, with the i9-9990XE only offering significantly higher clock-speeds, but at an astounding TDP of 255W. The i9-9990XE was shown beating the 18-core i9-9980XE in a variety of HEDT-relevant benchmarks.
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Tom's Hardware
Workstation integrator Puget Systems was able to score itself some i9-9990XE inventory at USD $2,300 per chip. Puget Systems last week received its first batch of chips from Intel, and released performance benchmarks. At this price, the i9-9990XE is being sold at a 21% premium over the retail-channel SEP price of the i9-9980XE, and a whopping 65% premium over the i9-9940X. Intel can't shake off comparisons between the i9-9990XE and the i9-9940X because both chips are 14-core/28-thread with 19.25 MB shared L3 cache, with the i9-9990XE only offering significantly higher clock-speeds, but at an astounding TDP of 255W. The i9-9990XE was shown beating the 18-core i9-9980XE in a variety of HEDT-relevant benchmarks.
64 Comments on Intel Core i9-9990XE OEM-only, Even Then it's a Lottery
But the other day I was shocked by an article in a newspaper, some high-school were boasting about their new e-sports class with each student getting a machine costing >$7000 a pop. I don't even understand how you build a gaming machine that expensive, and I seriously think they got royally screwed on that deal, and this was for playing like Dota 2 and CS…:rolleyes:
What I can say in defense of people paying a lot for smartphones: the lower models really suck. They're OK for calling and casual use of online services, but they're too slow even for regular web browsing. And while this may not be the case of me and you, for many a smartphone really replaced a PC.
My girlfriend's life literally turns around her phone. She wants it big and fast (the phone). But she uses it for music, movies, browsing, social media, studying, shopping... She only needs her laptop 2-3 times a week - for writing longer texts and occasional Sims or GTA.
So yeah: her phone may be twice as expensive as mine, but all her computers (phone + cheap Dell laptop) cost way less than all my stuff. And use less space.
It doesn't mean people that can't afford a laptop should buy an expensive phone (which they also can't afford), but if someone has the money then why not? If they can live with the small screen and touch keyboard, it's not a bad deal, really. And once you connect a BT keyboard and a TV, it's just perfect for most everyday task. The only thing that comes to mind: public procurement. You may be able to buy a solid metal trash can for $20, but your town will pay $100. It's just how these things work.
I like the raw speed and silence my computer has now (3x rads). Kind of needed to adapt to the silentness a few days long lol.
Good luck with your new machine.
Even if one can afford something doesn't mean he/she would waste their hard earned money to buy it.
I am using a Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 which i bought for around 200 euros/ 220 USD but i know plenty of my coworkers have 800+ euro/usd iphones
I know i can also easily afford a 1500 USD RTX 2080Ti (one of the better ones cost at least that much where i live) and i9 9900K
but i choose not to upgrade my old i7 4790k and gtx 1080
the latter is because i personally think the higher end rtx cards are still way overpriced and the Haswell i7 is still good for my 60fps monitor especially at higher resolutions than 1080p
Do you know which school it was and how do i come into contact with them?
I want to sell them gaming rigs with RGB components from ram to ssds for only $6500 :rockout:
Why not just disable 4 cores on the i9-9980XE.
This will allow for higher clocks and a per-core basis.
More shared L3 cache and same or better potential than the 14c variant.
Overclocking closes the gap.
Who pay's attention to TDP when going to top clocks?
This whole concept has gone off the rails.
Whoa be it to anyone who pays for this monstrosity.
1) It's just fantastically powerful.
2) This is a HEDT platform. And I think both Intel HEDT and Threadripper make no sense (have no sensible practical use) other than showing what the consumer lineup might get in 2-3 years.
And with that in mind, if I had to choose a single CPU from everything we have today, that would become my 2022 buy, 9990XE might be it. Of course I assume it would use the future node and architecture - hopefully staying below 200W and cost around $500-600. ;-)
You see, I would like processors to offer the best single-thread performance available and then add more cores, not the other way around. It's just a better approach.
This way you get no penalty when using a sequential program, but benefit from all the cores in parallel computing.
I'm looking forward to proper next gen CPUs (using different materials) with, hopefully, just 1 or 2 threads. :-)
First of all: who's talking about being worth? Clearly, all these "enthusiast" CPUs aren't worth the price you'll have to pay. I'm talking about performance, not value.
And the difference is huge.
www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2019-Intel-Core-i9-9990XE-Performance-1346/
Even in a benchmark that averages scores from different tasks, 9990XE is over 10% faster.
Only some of the tasks will benefit from higher clocks (and some tasks are GPU-oriented). This means single-thread performance scales with clocks and you can't really expect more in this case.
And is 10-15% a lot? What do you think? Is a non-overclocked 7700K faster than 7700? :) Of course an 9940X overclocked to 9990XE clocks will have similar performance. Isn't this kind of obvious?
The whole point of 9990XE is that you don't have to overclock.
Yes, I'm not hiding with my distaste for Intel HEDT and never have. It's a solution in need of a problem. Same with Threadripper.
Some say it's a product for "prosumers" - a moment when the obvious issue comes around... ... you can't expect the target "prosumer" group to do any kind of overclocking.
If a normal person wants a faster CPU, they buy a faster CPU. That's why there are so many variants in Intel's lineup.
You can only expect PC enthusiasts to do any kind of overclocking.
Seriously, if someone is into editing video, that's what he focuses at (especially if he's doing it professionally).
He may not even know what CPU clocks mean.
You can't say 9990X is basically the same as 9940X because you can (and are willing to) overclock. Not at all! :-D
I'm sure that if this was a discussion about games, people would be like "woooow, 10% more fps!"
But since it's about Photoshop, you've just ignored the difference. :)