Tuesday, March 26th 2019

Electronic Arts Lets Go of 350 Employees Amidst Internal Restructuring

It would be a safe bet to admit that Electronic Arts (EA) has not had the best 12, or even 24, months as a publisher. While their sports division continues to thrive, it may well be the one business unit holding down the fort. Their use of the Star Wars license has been dubious at best when it comes to execution, with reports on cancelled games and Battlefront II (the new one) not meeting expectations. Battlefield V has also not lit the field on fire, unless you are playing the new Firestorm battle royal mode in a literal sense, and the less said about Anthem the better. Apex Legends was introduced to much fanfare at launch, but the recent battle pass has soured many on the future of this new IP.

Perhaps it was a matter of when, rather than if, that the company would find a personnel restructure to be in order, and today just happened to be the day. EA CEO Andrew Wilson helped put out a statement on their website, recognizing a challenging world ahead and that they are "making deliberate moves to better deliver on our commitments, refine our organization and meet the needs" of players. These moves and changes involve letting go of as many as 350 people (out of 9000 total, or around 4%) unfortunately, most of whom are on their publicity and marketing departments, while also toning down their presence in Japan and Russia. We here at TechPowerUp are always saddened to hear such news, and take solace in knowing that EA is helping the laid-off personnel find new employment opportunities.
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50 Comments on Electronic Arts Lets Go of 350 Employees Amidst Internal Restructuring

#26
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
Chrispy_Of course EA had to **** on Apex Legends with their battle pass. They can't help themselves.

The sooner EA collapses, the better - they haven't done anything positive for gamers in almost two decades now, but the list of IPs and developers they've murdered is truly saddening. RIP to Visceral, Mythic, Bullfrog, Origin, Westwood, DreamWorks Interactive, Danger Close, EA Los Angeles (Medal of Honor), Phenomic, Black Box Games, Pandemic, PlayFish, NuFX. We also have to watch current devs like Maxxis and DICE die a slow death as EA ruin great ideas with stupid greed and monetisation.
Yeah man that list causalities really doesn't make me feel much sympathy. Some groundbreaking and amazing games were made by those studios only to have EA destroy them all. Yeah and the Apex thing is kinda funny, they just can't not "EA" stuff no matter what and again shooting themselves in both feet...
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#27
lexluthermiester
CrustybeaverSome cancerous comments in here.
Irony..
natr0nDisney could buy them out and destroy them once and for all.
That could actually work. Either Disney would destroy EA or turn it back into something good.
Chrispy_they haven't done anything positive for gamers in almost two decades now
That's a bit of a stretch. The rot started late 2008..
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#28
bug
rtwjunkieThe level of immaturity and downright meanness is in this thread is so sad and disheartening. People actually glad that other people are losing their jobs is totally sick. These are human beings, not the faceless entity known as EA everybody loves to hate.
I don't think anyone is happy because of people losing their jobs. We're just happy EA's actions seem to have caught up with them.
Personally, I haven't touched anything EA since they ruined NFS.
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#30
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
bugI don't think anyone is happy because of people losing their jobs. We're just happy EA's actions seem to have caught up with them.
Personally, I haven't touched anything EA since they ruined NFS.
Then go back and read. There are several people either glad they got fired or don’t feel bad for those employees.
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#31
Mescalamba
Think if they removed whole marketing department, it wouldnt make a difference (apart having more funds to actually use for making something of value).

Marketing today is overestimated thing. You can market and sell products with success without actually needing any of normal ways of marketing. Ofc it requires a) not being an idiot and b) not being greedy idiot, which unfortunately rules out nearly any "major" publisher.
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#32
lexluthermiester
rtwjunkieThen go back and read. There are several people either glad or don’t feel bad for those employees.
What do you expect us to do? Reach out to those people and give them warm fuzzies? We don't know who they are and, again, we're not talking about helpless children. Those people will find other work. While there might be some unpleasantness here and there, the reality is having EA on the resume is not going to hurt them at all, especially given the very publicly announced "restructuring", showing clearly that the lay-offs were not their individual fault.
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#33
Vayra86
rtwjunkieThe level of immaturity and downright meanness is in this thread is so sad and disheartening. People actually glad that other people are losing their jobs is totally sick. These are human beings, not the faceless entity known as EA everybody loves to hate.
While true, these people do choose to work in the company. Yes, choose, let's not act like EA was the only option here. First you choose to study marketing which is one the most empty professions you can imagine, and then you apply at EA. Not exactly a set of virtuous moves I'd say. Marketing is one of those typical 'zero benefit' jobs. Society gains nothing from these people.

So yeah. I hope they find another job quickly, but compassion? No. Anyone can lose their job, for any sort of reason, and the way you take that is personal. No need for sympathy, for some people getting fired is a necessary step and for others its the push they needed to make something of their lives. I think the latter applies in this case, if you had any spine you'd have stepped out by yourself years ago if you had to work with false info.

But this topic really isn't about the individuals but about EA as a company restructuring. The fact it happens in marketing is telling, you only do that if your current strategy isn't working.
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#34
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Vayra86While true, these people do choose to work in the company. Yes, choose, let's not act like EA was the only option here. First you choose to study marketing which is one the most empty professions you can imagine, and then you apply at EA. Not exactly a set of virtuous moves I'd say. Marketing is one of those typical 'zero benefit' jobs. Society gains nothing from these people.

So yeah. I hope they find another job quickly, but compassion? No. Anyone can lose their job, for any sort of reason, and the way you take that is personal. No need for sympathy, for some people getting fired is a necessary step and for others its the push they needed to make something of their lives. I think the latter applies in this case, if you had any spine you'd have stepped out by yourself years ago if you had to work with false info.

But this topic really isn't about the individuals but about EA as a company restructuring. The fact it happens in marketing is telling, you only do that if your current strategy isn't working.
Yes it happens. Yes EA generally sucks for us as gamers. And yes Marketing is volatile. But people feeling glee over things that happen to people and their misfortunes is wrong, no matter where you live if you are even remotely a decent member of the human race. Correct, the story isn't about individuals, but some cancerous individuals decided to make it about the employees. That is wrong.

As to our other point about leaving, you don't know everyone's situation. for some it may be the last stop. Others may be three-quarters of a way to retirement, and by that time, they are trapped if they don't want to be destitute in their retirement years. We can never presume to know anyone's situation and think we know better where they should work, based on our imposition of our values on them.
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#35
Vayra86
rtwjunkieAs to our other point about leaving, you don't know everyone's situation. for some it may be the last stop. Others may be three-quarters of a way to retirement, and by that time, they are trapped if they don't want to be destitute in their retirement years. We can never presume to know anyone's situation and think we know better where they should work, based on our imposition of our values on them.
Still doesn't excuse the fact its an empty profession at a corporation that has been taking a pretty loose approach to ethical behaviour, and this is not something of the last five years either. These people are fine working in that twisted environment, and I'm totally fine with them finding greener pastures instead, and I also have no problem with them feeling some consequence to their choices. Regardless of individual situations. We all have a certain responsibility and this is a typical case of karma being a bitch in public opinion. If you're fine with people who spread misinformation to put bread on the table, I'm fine with them getting sacked.

I do agree with your basic sentiment, we can't begin to understand any individuals' walks of life, but we can get a pretty good impression based on their choices and actions, simply because those are the things that count to the outside world. You may not like that, but its the way we've built our society, always carefully looking at each other and passing judgement, its both blessing and curse.
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#36
nickbaldwin86
EA who.... oh yeah that company that made the few good Battlefield games and then after 3 were remakes of the same game and trash.

Other beef I have is C&C series... they killed that with fire, the first games were amazing and they just went to shit for a long time.

I cant remember the last time I launched Origin.

Sorry to hear about the employees but EA needs to learn some how
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#37
Fx
Caring1Sometimes it's not the company at fault, but the culture of the employees.
If they've been getting a free ride for too long and not pulling their weight, sometimes it's best to burn the dead wood and start afresh.
While I agree with this, the results of this are best felt when that 'dead wood' happens to be bad management or engineers.
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#38
Tartaros
@rtwjunkie nailed it. We don't know their situation nor they are the people who made the decisions, yet some people around here are willing to send them to the chopping block with a smile.
Vya DomusQuite ironic.
Well done twisting my words there, sir.
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#39
Crustybeaver
lexluthermiesterIrony..

That could actually work. Either Disney would destroy EA or turn it back into something good.

That's a bit of a stretch. The rot started late 2008..
Oh please do explain
Vayra86No need for sympathy, for some people getting fired is a necessary step and for others its the push they needed to make something of their lives. I think the latter applies in this case, if you had any spine you'd have stepped out by yourself years ago if you had to work with false info.
So just to clarify you wouldn't sympathise with a family member or a close friend being made redundant? Ever considered that some may have families, mortgages, debt repayments. They could have been laid off with f**k all statutory pay. Work isn't always easy to come by. I've been through three redundancy processes and it's a stress that I wouldn't wish on anyone. The negativity and disdain towards companies and their wishful downward plight on this site really makes for some toxic reading.
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#40
natr0n
Let's not forget even though jobs are lost they still usually get compensation for a bit of time.
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#41
64K
EA just buys up Developers and use their reputation to sell mediocre games. Case in point BioWare. They bought BioWare in 2007. Mass Effect was already fished then and Dragon Age: Origins was already in development. What do we see happening after that? Mediocre games.
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#42
lexluthermiester
CrustybeaverOh please do explain
Explain what? You quoted my entire post which had several points to it. Which one do you refer to? Until you can make up your mind, pass.
natr0nLet's not forget even though jobs are lost they still usually get compensation for a bit of time.
Exactly, those folks are very likely to get a severance package. It's not like they're being tossed out on their ears.
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#43
Fx
64KEA just buys up Developers and use their reputation to sell mediocre games. Case in point BioWare. They bought BioWare in 2007. Mass Effect was already fished then and Dragon Age: Origins was already in development. What do we see happening after that? Mediocre games.
Thank you for mentioning Dragon Age. It had been a long time since I remembered to check the status of the series and BAM! Dragon Age 4 is in the works!!!

I just went through this entire list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Electronic_Arts_games

It turns out I that I don't hardly play EA titles. I counted all of 8 games that I have ever played and enjoyed. Only one of those is still going: Dragon Age.
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#44
lexluthermiester
FxIt turns out I that I don't hardly play EA titles. I counted all of 8 games that I have ever played and enjoyed. Only one of those is still going: Dragon Age.
You didn't enjoy Command & Conquer?
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#45
Fx
lexluthermiesterYou didn't enjoy Command & Conquer?
I did. I counted that among the 8.
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#46
lexluthermiester
FxI did. I counted that among the 8.
To be fair, after RA3, it was all downhill. C&C4 wasn't the terrible mess everyone claims it is when judged on it's own merits, but compared to the rest of the franchise..
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#47
Crustybeaver
lexluthermiesterExplain what? You quoted my entire post which had several points to it. Which one do you refer to? Until you can make up your mind, pass.

Exactly, those folks are very likely to get a severance package. It's not like they're being tossed out on their ears.
Well obviously it was the one you quoted me on, FFS. Go figure
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#48
Markosz
They are at a better place now. Or will be.
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#49
Vayra86
CrustybeaverOh please do explain


So just to clarify you wouldn't sympathise with a family member or a close friend being made redundant? Ever considered that some may have families, mortgages, debt repayments. They could have been laid off with f**k all statutory pay. Work isn't always easy to come by. I've been through three redundancy processes and it's a stress that I wouldn't wish on anyone. The negativity and disdain towards companies and their wishful downward plight on this site really makes for some toxic reading.
For direct relatives I still dont hold you in high regard if you do shitty/pointless/wasteful work. That doesnt mean Ill be standing there laughing at them. But honestly, there are far worse thjngs that happen to people all over the world, being all teary eyed because some unknowns lost a job to me seems like misplaced and hypocritical altruism.

You read it as toxic, I write it being brutally honest. NONE of us truly cares about these 350, it just looks nice to say we do. None of us is doing anything to help them anyway. Lets just be real about it.
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#50
lexluthermiester
CrustybeaverOh please do explain
Happy to..
CrustybeaverSo just to clarify you wouldn't sympathize with a family member or a close friend being made redundant?
You're making assumptions and putting words in others mouths. Toxic.
CrustybeaverEver considered that some may have families, mortgages, debt repayments.
That statement attempts(and fails) to guilt trip us in this forum for a decision we didn't make and had no control over. Toxic.
CrustybeaverThey could have been laid off with f**k all statutory pay. Work isn't always easy to come by. I've been through three redundancy processes and it's a stress that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
Again you're attempting to guilt trip us over a decision as set of circumstances we had no control over. Toxic.
CrustybeaverThe negativity and disdain towards companies and their wishful downward plight on this site really makes for some toxic reading.
See below. In this situation we are talking about EA, a company that produces shovel-ware and has for most of the last decade, treats their employees & customers like garbage and clearly cares only about money. These people being laid off have been done a favor in the long run. We are expressing our displeasure at EA, not at the people being laid off. That distinction might be subtle to you, but it's very well defined for the rest of us. You are the one coming off as toxic because you want us to feel guilty/sorry for something we had no involvement in and likely feel was a good thing. EVERYONE at some point in their lives gets laid off or fired. It's life move on.

So yes, Irony.
natr0nLet's not forget even though jobs are lost they still usually get compensation for a bit of time.
I'd be willing to bet there's some sort of severance package involved, though we'll never know because it was not made public.
64KEA just buys up Developers and use their reputation to sell mediocre games. Case in point BioWare. They bought BioWare in 2007. Mass Effect was already fished then and Dragon Age: Origins was already in development. What do we see happening after that? Mediocre games.
This. Maxis, Westwood and the list goes on.. But again, in all fairness, the rot didn't set in until 2008/2009.
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