Thursday, July 18th 2019
AMD 3rd Gen Threadripper Coming This October to Take on Intel's New HEDT Lineup?
AMD is planning to surprise Intel by unveiling its 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper HEDT (high-end desktop) processor lineup around the same time Intel launches its 10th generation Core "Cascade Lake-X" processor and the "Glacial Falls" HEDT platform, according to sources in the motherboard industry, speaking with DigiTimes. We're fairly sure the sources aren't referring to AMD's 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X processor, because it has already been announced and will be available in September.
The 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper will likely be a derivative of the company's "Rome" multi-chip module, and compatible with existing socket TR4 motherboards with a BIOS update, although a new chipset could also be launched to enable PCI-Express gen 4.0. AMD has the option to deploy up to 64 CPU cores across eight 7 nm "Zen 2" chiplets, while the 12 nm I/O controller die will be likely reconfigured for the HEDT platform with a monolithic 4-channel DDR4 memory interface and 64 PCIe gen 4.0 lanes. It's capable of 8 memory channels on the 2nd generation EPYC.
Source:
DigiTimes
The 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper will likely be a derivative of the company's "Rome" multi-chip module, and compatible with existing socket TR4 motherboards with a BIOS update, although a new chipset could also be launched to enable PCI-Express gen 4.0. AMD has the option to deploy up to 64 CPU cores across eight 7 nm "Zen 2" chiplets, while the 12 nm I/O controller die will be likely reconfigured for the HEDT platform with a monolithic 4-channel DDR4 memory interface and 64 PCIe gen 4.0 lanes. It's capable of 8 memory channels on the 2nd generation EPYC.
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LE: Well, thinking about it some more, this can be a chance for AMD to make some big money and have no competition whatsoever from Intel. Just look at 3900X, it sells pretty well, even though it costs 500$. People are willing to pay big money for big performance, so I guess it would be a good move to release a 64 cores threadripper. It would be unmatched by Intel on price, performance and it would give AMD a boost in customer opinion, since it has been quite long since AMD didn't had the best CPU in the market, period. Money wise, I don't think they can make the same profit as they make with ... 3900X, if they keep the same price as the 2990WX. For 500$ they sell now two defective dies (6+6 cores) so, 250$ per die.
A 64 core threadripper is made of 8 fully functional dies, the IO dies must also be fully functional and if they sell it for 2000$, they get the same 250$ per die, but now it must be a perfect die. I don't know, only thing I can say is that it would be nice from them to have a 64 core CPU for desktop.
16C 64MB or 128MB with 4 chiplets
32C 128MB or 256MB with 8 chiplets
In Epyc linup they offer all the configs with diff cach sized due to num of chiplets used.
Also- looks like the Chipset will use the large I/O die from Rome- how they gonna cool 25~50W chipset?
P.S: Intel is already reacting in secter to upcoming EPYC/TR with "new" 240W TDP parts for extra 50% price increase:
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193956/intel-xeon-platinum-8284-processor-38-5m-cache-3-00-ghz.html
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192487/intel-xeon-platinum-8274-processor-35-75m-cache-3-10-ghz.html
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192458/intel-xeon-gold-6269y-processor-30-25m-cache-3-20-ghz.html
Will be funny to break 100K in Cinebench R20 :-).
Crysis, obviouslyAssCreed Odyssey. Maybe 128 cores can finally handle 2 layers of protection plus Ubisoft-quality console port and the curve starts going back up again :D"One of the most important days in years for computer consumers was the launch yesterday of AMD’s newest microprocessor, the R7 Ryzen. For a decade, AMD had been out of the race in high-end desktop CPUs, but the release of the new architecture has shown it is not only back, but at a far more affordable price, and what is more: the best deal around for chess analysis."
en.chessbase.com/post/amd-releases-new-ryzen-processor
en.chessbase.com/post/building-the-ultimate-chess-machine
Computer chess enthusiasts; folks who build computers to play other computers number in the thousands.
The 16-core and possibly the 24-core models will be the interesting products for workstation users, assuming they don't run into major bottlenecks, latency issues etc.
The amount of non-synthetic and non-server applications which can scale close to 32 cores is limited, let alone beyond that. And any CPU which has to sacrifice clock speed to have more cores is really not well suited for workstations.