Friday, September 20th 2019

New Information on Intel's Upcoming i9-9900KS Processor Outed - 127 W TDP

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Intel's upcoming 5 GHz-on-all-cores Core i9-9900KS will certainly be a beast of a processor for the company - in more ways than one. The 8-core, 16-thread 5 5 GHz all-core turbo CPU will be Intel's best-performing consumer CPU for a while. The steps taken to ensure that have been the only ones Intel could do with their current CPU design and fabrication process - increase the TDP and improve all-core boost frequency, which should allow the CPU to perform incredibly well in peak performance.

The question that remains, of course, is how long the CPU will actually be able to keep its 5.0 GHz all-core frequency when it's engaged. The 127 W TDP as outed by an ASUS BIOS is a monstrous amount for an 8-core CPU, and I don't envy the heatsinks that will have to keep it in check. All in all, this seems to be nothing more than a CPU binned for Intel's purposes of becoming the best CPU for gaming and "home user relevant applications".
Source: Tom's Hardware

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87 Comments on New Information on Intel's Upcoming i9-9900KS Processor Outed - 127 W TDP

#51
Turmania
All this banana talk even before the product is on the market.just wait and see.at the moment I still prefer Intel to AMD until they fix their issues.
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#52
medi01
RaevenlordThe 8-core, 16-thread 5 5 GHz all-core turbo CPU
5.5?
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#53
trparky
TurmaniaAll this banana talk even before the product is on the market.just wait and see
Because what we're saying is based upon what we've seen from Intel in the past. Both the 8700K and the 9900K run hot. You can't sit there are tell me that these heat issues are going to be magically solved. Yeah right. Oh, and let's throw in the fact that these 9900KS chips are going to run even faster than the regular 9900K. We're damn near going to have to have a nuclear power plant cooling tower outside our homes to cool that sucker.
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#54
Aerpoweron
medi015.5?
I thought so at first, but it should read:

The 8-core, 16-thread 5 GHz all-core turbo CPU

Typing error, they typed the 5 twice ;)
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#55
trog100
trparkyBecause what we're saying is based upon what we've seen from Intel in the past. Both the 8700K and the 9900K run hot. You can't sit there are tell me that these heat issues are going to be magically solved. Yeah right. Oh, and let's throw in the fact that these 9900KS chips are going to run even faster than the regular 9900K. We're damn near going to have to have a nuclear power plant cooling tower outside our homes to cool that sucker.
two possible scenarios.. they raise the max core temp to 115 C and limit the 5 g boost to 30 seconds or so and then the chip throttles back plus selected binning..

modern laptops suffer from heat issues and do these kind of tricks..

but we will see when they get released.. he he

trog
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#56
trparky
trog100max core temp to 115 C
And watch people like me freak out with those temperatures.
trog100limit the 5 g boost to 30 seconds
What good is that? I thought that the whole point of these chips is to be able to run at 5 GHz all the livelong day?
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#57
trog100
trparkyAnd watch people like me freak out with those temperatures.

What good is that? I thought that the whole point of these chips is to be able to run at 5 GHz all the livelong day?
its quite common in high power laptops.. its the only way they can control the temps.. could be intel are gonna do the same with a desktop cpu.. the thing is these chips are fine for gaming mine runs under 70 C gaming but soon hits 100 C when all the cores are loaded..

i will be interested to see reviews.. he he

trog
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#58
notb
Honestly I don't understand the reactions. Of course I don't mean the AMD fanboys, but the rest of this forum.

9900KS is, as @Tomgang said, a binned i9 with a factory OC.
9900K is quite popular in communities like this one. And buyers usually OC it. So why wouldn't they want a binned one?
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#59
trparky
trog100could be intel are gonna do the same with a desktop cpu
I understand this being done in a notebook but a desktop? Nope. I expect to have balls to the walls performance in a desktop, it's why many of us use desktops vs notebooks; to have that virtually unlimited power when and if we need it.

I myself have an 8700K and just for the hell of it, I have MCE enabled so that I can have this chip run at its maximum boost speed all the time. And yes, due to good cooling it stays right at 4.7 GHz all day. If one can't do this with the 9900KS due to obvious heat-related issues, then what's the damn point?
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#60
Turmania
trparkyBecause what we're saying is based upon what we've seen from Intel in the past. Both the 8700K and the 9900K run hot. You can't sit there are tell me that these heat issues are going to be magically solved. Yeah right. Oh, and let's throw in the fact that these 9900KS chips are going to run even faster than the regular 9900K. We're damn near going to have to have a nuclear power plant cooling tower outside our homes to cool that sucker.
It runs hot and consumes a lot of power just like new ryzen 3xxxx with x570 chipset in fact they consume more power. At this moment I would not advice anyone to buy any CPU's from both companies. But I prefer stabilty and only Intel gives you that for now.
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#61
cucker tarlson
Vayra86So basically, for gaming, this CPU is the min-max sledgehammer for that last 1% on FPS you MIGHT be missing...sometimes.

Intel's last bastion on MSDT, its a pretty small one indeed. Anyone with less than 2x the purchase price in GPU hardware of this CPU, need not apply.

The 8086k is a thing of beauty compared to this one... at least that guy was notably more efficient. This KS is just on more steroids.
what are you talking about.
of course 9900ks is gonna be more efficient in gaming.
8/16 is gonna do better than 6/12 and at lower cpu load.
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#62
trog100
i think i have a good 9900k chip.. it will run 5 g stable at 1.232 vcore.. my 8700K needed closer to 1.35 for 5 g..

both chips run too hot at 5 g.. it seems bloody obvious to me that even though my 9900k is a better binned chip the extra 30% core numbers are bound to make it run too hot..

the only thing that surprises me is that i was daft enough to think it wouldnt.. he he..

i dont think many folks on this forum actually own a 9900K.. most are just theorizing..

i think the 9900k is a waste of space.. i recon the 9900ks will be an even bigger waste of space.. :)

trog
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#63
cucker tarlson
trog100i think i have a good 9900k chip.. it will run 5 g stable at 1.232 vcore.. my 8700K needed closer to 1.35 for 5 g..

both chips run too hot at 5 g.. it seems bloody obvious to me that even though my 9900k is a better binned chip the extra 30% core numbers are bound to make it run too hot..

the only thing that surprises me is that i was daft enough to think it wouldnt.. he he..

i dont think many folks on this forum actually own a 9900K.. most art just theorizing..

i think the 9900k is a waste of space.. i recon the 9900ks will be an even bigger waste of space.. :)

trog
if you wanna play at 120hz locked there is no other option.
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#64
Rob94hawk
If electricity was cheaper than oil I could use this as a space heater in my house.
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#65
trog100
cucker tarlsonif you wanna play at 120hz locked there is no other option.
16 threads do not benefit gaming.. now what would make gaming sense is a better binned 9700ks running all cores at 5 g out of the box.. he he

trog
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#66
trparky
I’d agree more with you @trog100 if you mentioned the i5 9600 with its 6 cores and 6 threads. More cores only adds to the heat when ramped up in speed.
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#67
reifu
AerpoweronWell, only if Intel has improved the heat transfer out of the Die. Der 8auer told me 230W to 240W is the maximum the Die can transfer. Even i can confirm that, when i have a power draw of 240W, the core runs at 110°C. With a 320mm AIO from Corsair.
TDP and power draw are not the same thing. TDP is the amount of heat generated, not the wattage drawn from the power supply.
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#68
cucker tarlson
trog10016 threads do not benefit gaming.. now what would make gaming sense is a better binned 9700ks running all cores at 5 g out of the box.. he he

trog
they do in a way.lower load means lower temperatures and quieter operation.9600k might be on 9900k's tail most of the time but does that at a really high load.it hits 90% utilization where 9900k stays under 50%.
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#69
techmagnet
The easiest way to start a wildfire in summer.
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#70
PanicLake
Arc1t3ct...The TDP is a non issue IMO.
Who pays the electricity bill in your house? I hope is not your mom.
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#71
ratirt
trog10016 threads do not benefit gaming.. now what would make gaming sense is a better binned 9700ks running all cores at 5 g out of the box.. he he

trog
cucker tarlsonthey do in a way.lower load means lower temperatures and quieter operation.9600k might be on 9900k's tail most of the time but does that at a really high load.it hits 90% utilization where 9900k stays under 50%.
It would make it better for sure but I don't think Intel's main purpose is to release a CPU better for gaming. They want to release a flagship CPU like 9900KS (not 9700KS) also for the marketing. 9700KS would have been better but it wouldn't serve the purpose the 9900KS will.
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#72
BorgOvermind
iO34% higher TDP for 11% higher base and 6% higher boost clocks... Should have called it i9-9590FX at this point.
True :D
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#73
kapone32
ratirtIt would make it better for sure but I don't think Intel's main purpose is to release a CPU better for gaming. They want to release a flagship CPU like 9900KS (not 9700KS) also for the marketing. 9700KS would have been better but it wouldn't serve the purpose the 9900KS will.
The 9900KS will not be better at anything other than Gaming and Adobe than the 3900X or upcoming 3950X. Until Intel releases 10nm they will not have any truly flagship CPUs. That processor for me is why Intel is releasing a binned 9900K and calling it a new processor. I see this CPU being $599 or $699 Canadian too. It might even cost more when the 3950X is released. The thing that worries me is if they are still using "toothpaste" running this in a system will produce some serious heat. Like someone said a 34% increase in TDP.
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#74
trog100
ratirtIt would make it better for sure but I don't think Intel's main purpose is to release a CPU better for gaming. They want to release a flagship CPU like 9900KS (not 9700KS) also for the marketing. 9700KS would have been better but it wouldn't serve the purpose the 9900KS will.
i think Intel simply want to firmly establish their claim to the fastest gaming cpu.. the 9900k already has this title the 9900ks just makes it indisputable.. amd win elsewhere simply on a higher core count..

trog
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#75
ratirt
kapone32The 9900KS will not be better at anything other than Gaming and Adobe than the 3900X or upcoming 3950X. Until Intel releases 10nm they will not have any truly flagship CPUs. That processor for me is why Intel is releasing a binned 9900K and calling it a new processor. I see this CPU being $599 or $699 Canadian too. It might even cost more when the 3950X is released. The thing that worries me is if they are still using "toothpaste" running this in a system will produce some serious heat. Like someone said a 34% increase in TDP.
Dude. We are not talking about AMD processors here. The statement was 9700KS would have been better for gaming if binned like 9900KS. read the god damn posts.
And it is obvious 3900 and 3950 would be better for anything else than gaming.
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