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AMD 4th Gen Ryzen Desktop Processors to Launch Around September 2020

AMD's 4th generation Ryzen desktop processors are expected to launch around September 2020, sources in the motherboard industry tell DigiTimes. Codenamed "Vermeer," successor to "Matisse," these processors will be socket AM4 multi-chip modules of up to two CPU complex dies based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, combined with an I/O controller die. The "Zen 3" chiplets are expected to be fabricated on a newer 7 nm-class process by TSMC, either N7P or N7+. The biggest design change with "Zen 3" is the doing away of CCX arrangement of CPU cores, with each chiplet holding a common block of cores sharing a last-level cache. This, along with clock speed headroom gains from the new node are expected to yield generational price-performance increases.

The "Zen 2" based 8-core "Renoir" die is also expected to make its socket AM4 debut within 2020, succeeding the "Picasso" based quad-core Ryzen 3000-series APUs. This is a particularly important product for AMD, as it is expected to compete with Intel's 10th generation Core i5 6-core/12-thread processors in terms of pricing, while offering more cores (8-core/16-thread) and a faster iGPU. The 4th gen Ryzen socket AM4 processor lineup will launch alongside AMD's 600-series motherboard chipset, with forwards- and backwards-compatibility (i.e., "Vermeer" and "Renoir" working with older chipsets, and older AM4 processors working on 600-series chipset motherboards). AMD was originally expected to unveil these processors at the 2020 Computex trade-show in June, but Computex itself is rescheduled to late-September.
Sources: DigiTimes (premium content), Tom's Hardware
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56 Comments on AMD 4th Gen Ryzen Desktop Processors to Launch Around September 2020

#51
dlee5495
Shojan-Spoke to my computer guy, He said, If you're going to get the 4th gen CPU then you're going to need a new MOBO because they are changing the pin configuration on the CPU's. I'm in the middle of building my PC and I ws saving the MOBO and CPU for last. Now I'm waiting a little longer in order to ge the best compatible MOBO for the Ryzen 5 4600 CPU that I plan on purchasing. It's a good thing because RGB is becoming A-RGB (5v addressable) and not a lot of MOBO's have the appropriate 5V sockets for them to plug into.
It wasn't a pin issue, but a BIOS issue - they had an all-in-one BIOS for the many case scenarios that the 4th gen would need, and it was bigger than the previous generation motherboards could fit onto their BIOS chip. AMD decided to change their position after people raised the complaint about their move to drop compatibility, but the catch for new buyers is that the next gen motherboards are a bit pricier for the storage upgrade path to fourth gen PciE that almost all of the 4xx series motherboards don't have.
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headloser
UM WHY??? Isn't here supposed to be a NEW AM5 CPU chip and motherboard coming out next year?? What the point of buying in October when the AM4 motherboard socket will be discounted and you can't upgrade anymore CPU.
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INSTG8R
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headloserUM WHY??? Isn't here supposed to be a NEW AM5 CPU chip and motherboard coming out next year?? What the point of buying in October when the AM4 motherboard socket will be discounted and you can't upgrade anymore CPU.
There has been zero schedule proposed for AM5 as of yet
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#54
ixi
INSTG8RThere has been zero schedule proposed for AM5 as of yet
Looking at their slides they should come out late this year. Same goes for cpu and gpu.
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INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
ixiLooking at their slides they should come out late this year. Same goes for cpu and gpu.
The only real confirmed info is it will be on 5nm the roadmap is pretty unreliable considering the current state of the entire industries supply issues due to the pandemic
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#56
Super XP
headloserUM WHY??? Isn't here supposed to be a NEW AM5 CPU chip and motherboard coming out next year?? What the point of buying in October when the AM4 motherboard socket will be discounted and you can't upgrade anymore CPU.
It doesn't matter if Socket AM4 is going to be discontinued. That's the best time to buy such motherboard & ZEN 3 to go with it. Because prices usually go down quite a bit. On average, people build a gaming PC will hold onto that PC for about 5-6 years if not more. That gaming PC will do just fabulous in PC Gaming. This is why waiting for AM5 in my opinion is not worth it, unless you upgrade your CPU every year or so. Not sure why one would so such a thing though.
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