Thursday, May 7th 2020

AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

In their briefing leading up to today's Ryzen 3 3100 and 3300X review embargo, AMD disclosed that its upcoming "Zen 3" 4th generation Ryzen desktop processors will only support AMD 500-series (or later) chipsets. The next-gen processors will not work with older 400-series or 300-series chipsets. This comes as a blow to those who bought premium X470 motherboards hoping for latest CPU compatibility running into 2020. At this time only B550 is available, but we expect more news on enthusiast chipsets as the Zen 3 launch date comes closer. AMD B550 is a fascinating new mid-range chipset by AMD. Launching today as a successor to the popular B450 chipset, B550 is a low-power silicon with roughly the same 5-7 W TDP as the older 400-series chipset. Although AMD won't confirm it, it's likely that the chipset is sourced from ASMedia. It brings a lot to the table that could draw buyers away from B450, but it also takes some away.

The AMD B550 currently only supports 3rd generation Ryzen "Matisse" processors. Ryzen 3000 "Picasso" APU are not supported. What's more, older Ryzen 2000 "Pinnacle Ridge," "Raven Ridge," and first gen Ryzen 1000 "Summit Ridge" aren't supported, either. The Athlon 200 and 3000 "Zen" based chips miss out, too. AMD argues that it ran into ROM size limitations when trying to cram AGESA microcode for all the older processors. We find that hard to believe because B450 motherboards with the latest ComboAM4 AGESA support 2nd gen and 3rd gen processors, including APUs and Athlon SKUs based on the two. On the bright side, AMD assured us (within its marketing slides for the B550), that the chipset will support upcoming processors based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture. The company also came up with a new motherboard packaging label that clarifies that the processors won't work with the 3400G and 3200G.
AMD B550 chipset highlights AMD B550 processor support AMD B550 vs B450
AMD B550 motherboards will feature partial PCI-Express gen 4.0 support. The main PCI-Express x16 slot, and one of the M.2 NVMe slots that are wired to the "Matisse" processor will be PCI-Express gen 4.0, however, all downstream PCIe lanes put out by the B550 chipset are gen 3.0. This is still a step up from 400-series "Promontory" chipsets, which are limited to gen 2.0. B550 puts out eight PCIe gen 3.0 lanes, which combine with the 20 usable processor lanes from "Matisse" to take the platform's total PCIe budget to 28 lanes (x16 gen 4.0 + x4 gen 4.0 + x8 gen 3.0). The B550 chipset itself connects to the "Matisse" processor via a PCI-Express 3.0 x4 connection.

In terms of connectivity, AMD's B550 chipset puts out up to six SATA 6 Gbps ports with AHCI and RAID capability; two each of 10 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2 and 5 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 1 ports; and six USB 2.0 ports. PCIe, SATA, and USB connectivity from the "Matisse" processor is unchanged: four 10 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2 ports, and up to two SATA 6 Gbps ports.
AMD B550 platform layout
The processor includes a PCI-Express 4.0 x16 PEG connection that can be split between slots. AMD is allowing motherboard designers to have multi-GPU capability with the B550, where the x16 PEG link is split between two x16 slots (electrical x8). Previously this capability was limited to the top-tier X370 and X470 boards. The processor also puts out one PCI-Express 4.0 x4 link meant to drive one M.2 NVMe slot or U.2 NVMe port. Every B550 motherboard we've seen so far features one M.2 PCIe gen 4.0 x4 (64 Gbps) slot.
AMD B550 motherboards
As with both its predecessors, the B350 and B450, the new B550 chipset enables full multiplier-based CPU overclocking, along with broad memory overclocking support. Motherboard designers are at liberty to kit out the B550 with the most elaborate CPU VRM solutions. Expect some of the pricier B550 boards to match their X570 counterparts in overclocking capability.

Motherboards based on the AMD B550 chipset are expected to launch on June 16, 2020. Prices start at $100, according to AMD.
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434 Comments on AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

#151
windwhirl
ensabrenoirAMD will eventually go all dark side and join the Sith
With all that red marketing, we should have seen the signs? LOL

Also, a lot of people trash/trashed AMD for power consumption, but that's just because Force lightning is really taxing.
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#152
R-T-B
lynx29first gen ryzen couldn't keep ram stable for it's life. so not really, 2 generations if we talking stable performance.
I mean it's still a generation like it or not. And FWIW, my Ryzen 1800X was able to run Samsung b-die at 3200Mhz quad kit no problem.

It was picky with ram, but when it worked, it worked well.
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#153
Space Lynx
Astronaut
got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.
Dave65Yeah Intel would never do this right?
:shadedshu:
all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.
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#154
djisas
lynx29got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.



all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.
Good luck spending 500€ for 10fps...
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#155
Camm
lynx29got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.



all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.
You know, I find it highly improbable that someone who had a low end board ordered suddenly raged and returned the board to go for the absolute high end of a competitors product..... lol.
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#156
1d10t
Nah..let him be.He just another justifiable buyer, sees anything from his own optics :laugh:
Seriously, max fps, in 60Hz monitor ? Yeah highest graph is more readable than lower graph such as minimum or low percentage :laugh:
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#157
Assimilator
Pretty glad I went for a second-hand X370 board when I was building a Ryzen system at Christmas. Got a Crosshair VI Hero, which is packed to the brim with features and overclocks better than many "premium" X570 boards, for 2/3 of what the cheapest brand new X570 board was going for. Only thing it's missing is an extra M.2 slot - a cheap Chinese add-in card solved that, and is usable on any system I build going forward, to boot.

This is a bit of a dick move from AMD, but it's almost certainly a response to Intel's continuing failure to provide any sort of competition to Zen. As an enthusiast I can't say that I like it, but I understand it from a financial viewpoint.
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#158
Fouquin
lynx29got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.



all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.
You flip flop between upgrades faster than the transistors in these chips. This has to be the third or fourth time I've seen you in a thread shunning something that you spent months hyping up.
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#159
TheoneandonlyMrK
gamefoo21Livid being AMD has been dead silent, while saying AM4 was getting at least Zen 3. The reviewers, YouTubers, and sites all suggested B450 for value builds because of upgrade path.

AMD did worse than Intel.

I agree that tech moves forward but AMD basically lied to consumers, IMHO.
Lied, show proof AMD said any of the sort.


While you're at it find a review that says get b450 for the upgrade path I recall none using that argument.

Then while you're at it slap yourself and re read what you wrote which in part is true except the who.

SOME people said not AMD... ...

Learn a lesson about hearsay and rumours.

@lynx29 grow up , run off buy what you want and crack on with it, AMD and not a single reader of your drivel(I'm certain) gives the slightest shit what you want, or me.

Kin AMD n intel the shit bastard's I wanted 64 cores and more importantly 64 pciex4 lanes for mainstream money.

Thankfully due to the war (processor)that might now happen , sure as f### not because of intel though.

Roll on 2023.
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#160
Turmania
AMD will get away with it, from it`s fanboys.
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#161
TheLostSwede
News Editor
TurmaniaAMD will get away with it, from it`s fanboys.
Get away with what exactly? If you're going to make accusations, at least spell them out.
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#162
oxidized
TheLostSwedeGet away with what exactly? If you're going to make accusations, at least spell them out.
The fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you some AM4 chipsets don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.
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#163
Vya Domus
gamefoo21AMD did worse than Intel.
Let me get this straight, you think AMD is worse because some youtuber and whoever else recommend people to buy something in particular ? Or are they worse because they supported more CPUs than any other platform Intel ever had ? Sorry, I can't figure it out.

You know what, buy from Intel then and never touch anything made by AMD if you think that. No matter what will happen people will always come up with the most bewildering explanations on why a brand is worse or better. Just pick your favorite color buddy and sparse us this nonsense, you don't need to explain yourself at the end of the day for anything.

If you like to pay extra for the privilege to get ripped off the most from a particular company, knock yourself out.
CammYou know, I find it highly improbable that someone who had a low end board ordered suddenly raged and returned the board to go for the absolute high end of a competitors product..... lol.
He's a troll at best or suffers from cognitive dissonance at worst, spends most of this time on this forum going back and forth why Intel/AMD/Nvidia is dead or the best.
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#164
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedThe fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.
Has a single one of you neg's got the slightest bit of proof of what you allege AMD said , I was listening I heard none of that please do show?.

@Turmania dangerous word that usually weilded by one and often like with you, f all facts just vitreal.

Were 7 pages deep mostly on irrelevant shit that's nowt to do with b550 , time for facts proof and some to stop trolling and start backing up their BS.
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#165
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkHas a single one of you neg's got the slightest bit of proof of what you allege AMD said , I was listening I heard none of that please do show?.

@Turmania dangerous word that usually weilded by one and often like with you, f all facts just vitreal.

Were 7 pages deep mostly on irrelevant shit that's nowt to do with b550 , time for facts proof and some to stop trolling and start backing up their BS.
They promised support of the AM4 socket until 2021, maybe they never said specifically that every CPU gen would be supported on every Chipset gen, but they also never denied that, and again as i said, saying you're "supporting AM4 socket until 2021" means nothing if not what everyone understood initially, stop defending at all costs your favorite brand.

This deserves as much bashing as intel for their stuff.
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#166
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedThey promised support of the AM4 socket until 2021, maybe they never said specifically that every CPU gen would be supported on every Chipset gen, but they also never denied that, and again as i said, saying you're "supporting AM4 socket until 2021" means nothing if not what everyone understood initially, stop defending at all costs your favorite brand.

This deserves as much bashing as intel for their stuff.
Maybe you specifically have proof??

Do show

It costs f all I'm bored cos of Rona but tbf I'm getting more bored with they said!

Should we all join in berating even if a we as an engineer understand the why, no mate.
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#169
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkOf course you realise that says 2020!

You can't find 2021 cos it's in your head.

And points out exactly what this says 550/570/ only for zen3.

And say's why.
It changes nothing because 4000 series is going to be on AM4 too

And touting support of a socket means nothing if you don't intend to support most of AM4 CPUs on most Chipsets gens, and that's people understood indeed, that's why many are so pissed right now.
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#170
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedNo it changes nothing because 4000 series is going to be on AM4 too
With different features and chipset, features older board's already do Not support but the same socket.
Ffs how many incompatible 1151 board types have intel released, I have a b250 I know.
They never said either btw.

As for that slide you made coal out of beans on toast it says nothing of the sort and if you got full backwards support from that you need help dealing with information.
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#171
TheLostSwede
News Editor
oxidizedThe fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.
They promised AM4 support, what that means, they never explained and clearly no-one asked the question either, until now and all of a sudden, everyone's shocked. Again, AMD doesn't address you and me, it addresses its customers when it makes these announcements, so just because some people thought it meant something, it doesn't mean that's what AMD meant.
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#172
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkWith different features and chipset, features older board's already do Not support but the same socket.
Ffs how many incompatible 1151 board types have intel released, I have a b250 I know.
They never said either btw.
And there we go! Let's talk about intel now shall we?
TheLostSwedeThey promised AM4 support, what that means, they never explained and clearly no-one asked the question either, until now and all of a sudden, everyone's shocked. Again, AMD doesn't address you and me, it addresses its customers when it makes these announcements, so just because some people thought it meant something, it doesn't mean that's what AMD meant.
Support AM4 to do what if not support most CPUs on most Chipsets? Cmon guys you're really trying your hardest here, stop that honestly, this move was sh** if confirmed, just as shit as intel's, with the aggravating component which is touted support of AM4 until 2021 or 2020, which changes nothing.
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#173
TheLostSwede
News Editor
oxidizedSupport AM4 to do what if not support most CPUs on most Chipsets? Cmon guys you're really trying your hardest here, stop that honestly, this move was sh** if confirmed, just as shit as intel's, with the aggravating component which is touted support of AM4 until 2021 or 2020, which changes nothing.
Please read my previous response to the same question earlier in this thread, as I'm not writing that again.
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#174
oxidized
TheLostSwedePlease read my previous response to the same question earlier in this thread, as I'm not writing that again.
I read it good the first time, it's not a response, so wait let me rephrase my question. Why tout about AM4 support until 2020(2021) when you plan on forcing old customers to buy another motherboard anyway? I mean in the end whether i buy a new mobo because the old one has a chipset doesn't support the CPU i want to buy, or because the old one has a socket which doesn't support the CPU i want to buy, i'm still forced to buy another motherboard, so again what was the goal of touting about supporting AM4 socket until 2021 if in the end many will have to buy a new motherboard anyway?
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#175
Space Lynx
Astronaut
djisasGood luck spending 500€ for 10fps...
huh? MSI Z490 mobo I just pre-ordered is $169.99 and the CPU will be around $400-500 which various version I get, hoping the non-integrated graphics variant is a touch cheaper.
TheLostSwedeThey promised AM4 support, what that means, they never explained and clearly no-one asked the question either, until now and all of a sudden, everyone's shocked. Again, AMD doesn't address you and me, it addresses its customers when it makes these announcements, so just because some people thought it meant something, it doesn't mean that's what AMD meant.
that's shady as crap wording. lol intel and amd are the same, there is no point in brand loyalty its capitalism. neither of these companies care about you. so im picking the best performance for only 5% more money. later homies.
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