Saturday, May 23rd 2020
AMD "Matisse Refresh" Processor SKUs Include 3900XT, 3800XT, and 3600XT
Rumors of AMD refreshing its 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processor family are growing louder. On Friday (22/05), reports of the "Matisse Refresh" processor family surfaced, with talk of "Ryzen 7 3850X" and "Ryzen 7 3750X" processors headed for a June 2020 announcement followed by July availability. Turns out AMD has a different naming scheme in mind, targeted at wooing gamers. The company is reportedly bringing its "XT" brand extension over from its Radeon graphics card family over to the Ryzen line.
There are three SKUs AMD is developing, the Ryzen 9 3900XT, the Ryzen 7 3800XT, and the Ryzen 5 3600 XT. All three are likely to retain core counts of the SKUs they are displacing from current price points - with the 3900XT likely being a 12-core/24-thread part; the 3800XT an 8-core/16-thread part, and the 3600XT a 6-core/12-thread part. AMD is likely to give the three a major clock speed increase to shore up gaming performance. It won't surprise us if AMD tinkers with boost algorithms, either. GIGABYTE has already referenced "Matisse Refresh" in its motherboard product roadmaps, which adds plenty of credibilty to this rumor. With "Zen 3" based 4th gen Ryzen processors unlikely to relieve the embattled 3900X, 3800X, and 3600X in the wake of Intel's 10th gen Core "Comet Lake" launch until Q4-2020, it makes sense for AMD to plan a product stack refresh to bolster its competitiveness. AMD is reportedly planning a June 16 product announcement, followed by July 7 availability.
Sources:
WCCFTech, via VideoCardz
There are three SKUs AMD is developing, the Ryzen 9 3900XT, the Ryzen 7 3800XT, and the Ryzen 5 3600 XT. All three are likely to retain core counts of the SKUs they are displacing from current price points - with the 3900XT likely being a 12-core/24-thread part; the 3800XT an 8-core/16-thread part, and the 3600XT a 6-core/12-thread part. AMD is likely to give the three a major clock speed increase to shore up gaming performance. It won't surprise us if AMD tinkers with boost algorithms, either. GIGABYTE has already referenced "Matisse Refresh" in its motherboard product roadmaps, which adds plenty of credibilty to this rumor. With "Zen 3" based 4th gen Ryzen processors unlikely to relieve the embattled 3900X, 3800X, and 3600X in the wake of Intel's 10th gen Core "Comet Lake" launch until Q4-2020, it makes sense for AMD to plan a product stack refresh to bolster its competitiveness. AMD is reportedly planning a June 16 product announcement, followed by July 7 availability.
120 Comments on AMD "Matisse Refresh" Processor SKUs Include 3900XT, 3800XT, and 3600XT
Sure, this makes sense....
Maybe wccftech robot got a bug.
It doesn't sound like Navi will take any crown. Sounds like AMD had underestimated NVidia gains for the next-gen.
I wanted to build a very expensive and compact PC almost a year ago, but 3950x was late, there is no itx board with 2 m2 10gbe and thunderbolt so I said I will wait.
Waiting for zen 3 and spend 6k on a dying socket does not make sense to me, so I compromised and I recently bought a 3800x. At the moment I do not need the fastest PC on earth.
This is the first time I am doing something like this, usually I bought the best I could afford, but this time I changed my habit.
That is not a MKT disaster at all, but for example if I buy a 3900x in June and I can reach the frequency of the 3900xt, then it is marketing BS
But that is remarkably similar to having to play on launch day, which, like all early adoption, is shit.
I've learned to be patient, never buy on release, even if its CBP2077 I'll just wait a few weeks or months to let the dust settle. Game won't go anywhere but into an improved state, time is my ally.
Anyway... :pYeah... they will do in graphics what they did in CPUs. Poor Volta... right? :) This story is as old as Fury X and has surfaced ever since AMD had nothing to show for it. Not buying this BS. There is a tiny, tiny little difference between CPUs and GPUs... on the latter, Nvidia hasn't been sitting idle, their product is simply better. Fact of the matter is, RDNA2 will go just as far as the new consoles go and that means they will not be chasing the top end before Nvidia has specified what that is. Which means its same shit different day. You don't just catch up two gens in one fell swoop, and Navi already took too long.
The power delivery of even the cheapest of A320 MB is sufficient for a >100W CPU. And sufficient is often the world if you're budget conscious.
The same goes for pairing CPUs and GPUs. If you need processor power (ie. not gaming) why would you spend money on an expensive GPU ? On the opposite end, for gaming it's often a better option to save cash on the CPU and put it in the GPU.
I remember a time I had to buy a 300€ MB for a 75€ / 45W CPU because it was the cheapest option for the I/Os I had to get in. And CPU was enough for it's load. Sure the MB was made to handle 250W CPU but it wasn't really the needed feature. Going for a more common route with 120€ MB would have cost me about 150€ for the equivalent CPU, 200€ in expansion card and 80€ for a new case.
Navi 10 is 251 sq. mm with performance 100% and performance per watt 100%.
How much faster will Navi 21 be if it is 505 sq. mm with (>) 50% higher performance per watt ?
It can scale better than linearly or worse than linearly.
And other AMD personnel said that you must expect 4K level disruptive performance from Navi 2X.