Sunday, May 24th 2020
Possible 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen "Matisse Refresh" XT SKU Clock Speeds Surface
Last week, we brought you reports of AMD inching closer to launch its 3rd generation Ryzen "Matisse Refresh" processor lineup to ward off the 10th gen Intel Core "Comet Lake" threat, by giving the "Zen 2" chips possible clock speed-bumps to shore up performance. The lineup included the Ryzen 9 3900XT, the Ryzen 7 3800XT, and the Ryzen 5 3600XT. We now have a first-look at their alleged clock speeds courtesy of an anonymous tipster on ChipHell forums, seconded by HXL @9550pro.
The XT SKUs indeed revolve around 200-300 MHz increments in base- and boost clock speeds as many of our readers predicted in the "Matisse Refresh" article's comments section. The 3900XT comes with 4.10 GHz base clock, and 4.80 GHz max boost clocks, compared to 3.80 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost clocks of the 3900X. Likewise, the 3800XT notches up to 4.20 GHz base clock (highest in the lineup), and 4.70 GHz max boost, compared to 3.90-4.50 GHz of the 3800X. The 3600XT offers the same 4.70 GHz max boost, a step up from the 4.40 GHz of the 3600X, but has its base clock set at 4.00 GHz, compared to 3.80 GHz on the 3600X. It appears like AMD's design focus is to reduce, if not beat, Intel's gaming performance lead. The 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" tops gaming performance by a mid-high single-digit percentages over AMD's offerings, and AMD could bring them down to low single-digit percentages with the XT family.
Sources:
ChipHell forums, HXL aka 9550pro (Twitter)
The XT SKUs indeed revolve around 200-300 MHz increments in base- and boost clock speeds as many of our readers predicted in the "Matisse Refresh" article's comments section. The 3900XT comes with 4.10 GHz base clock, and 4.80 GHz max boost clocks, compared to 3.80 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost clocks of the 3900X. Likewise, the 3800XT notches up to 4.20 GHz base clock (highest in the lineup), and 4.70 GHz max boost, compared to 3.90-4.50 GHz of the 3800X. The 3600XT offers the same 4.70 GHz max boost, a step up from the 4.40 GHz of the 3600X, but has its base clock set at 4.00 GHz, compared to 3.80 GHz on the 3600X. It appears like AMD's design focus is to reduce, if not beat, Intel's gaming performance lead. The 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" tops gaming performance by a mid-high single-digit percentages over AMD's offerings, and AMD could bring them down to low single-digit percentages with the XT family.
113 Comments on Possible 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen "Matisse Refresh" XT SKU Clock Speeds Surface
They no longer make ryzen one so second generation is clearly what they intend to make for many years anyway for OEM manufacturer to support. Long life cycles ala af1600
Zen 3 on consumer can wait until Christmas if the refresh makes them more competitive at the right price ,all other prices will be affected too so price per performance, Intel will be in trouble.
The yeilds on 7nm+ will be worse than 7N initially so they will be building up bins ATM for Ryzens 4#££.
It’s really funny to read comments as many people go out of their way to defend their favorite brand. Intel is the best gaming vs AMD...
Almost look like fans of entertainment idols fighting each other. Just for another 2 cents of ego.
Those CPUs are just tools to accomplish certain tasks. It’s buyer responsibility to choose what they need to prioritize and live with the compromise.
Could you stop writing "bc" instead of "because", for christ/fuck's sake?
2- Steve from GN shown that 10600k uses way less voltage than 8700k and 9700k to achieve high clocks, a 30€ tower cooler more than enough for a solid 4,9ghz all Core overclock
Still, AMD mobo prices and included cooler are big advantages, true, but 10600k runs circles around even 3900x on most games. You pay more, but you have more performance if high refresh gaming is your concerne. There are 30% differences in some games.
Lisa tends to not correct when people take the wrong message from her statements.
Provide a source or GTFO.
He even switched from 8700K to 3700X.
Ryzen 1000 and Ryzen 2000 had its problems, but Ryzen 3000 is nothing like them. Actually big L3 cash really helps in emulators.
"The XT versions are rumored to do FLCK 2,000 MHz out of the box."
If that is true and with the clock speed increase and very good Memory we should see a nice boost.
Going back to AMD Roberts PBO video kinda pisses me off cause if it's true the 3800XT can hit the 4.7GHz boost why can't the 3800x when using PBO+AutoOC? Arbitrary firmware temp limits? Are they just letting the XT versions run hotter to milk the market until Zen3 hits the shelves? Something doesn't seem right.
what different is example 'old' 3900x cpu if you oc'd it base clocks 4.1ghz...so it should oc'd 4.8ghz?? if, cpu can handle it and you cand do it, or, buying 'new' 3900xt what have factory oc'd ready thouse values??
i cant see anything different,its stil lsame 7nm cpu...hmm, maybe that xt version are hand choosed...but i remembe, there is bfore problem amd cpus thats they not running hertz what amd promise.
anyway,its not change battle against intel 10900k anything...its change if amd 3900xt can oc'd at least 5 ghz...
well, we all see it soon for reviews, but sure is that tdp raisng and heat and power eat.