cucker tarlsonnot great,not terrible.

Vayra86Intel technology 2020: add more useless stats to push cpus even further out of their comfort zone. This is their disclaimer, nothing else. And even then, those power figures are retarded.

65W > 224W. Lol, imagine if you bought that 70W TDP cooler for it. After all, that is not a K- CPU... 28 seconds...



Pretty terrible when only your i3s have some semblance of logic to their turbo left, pushing 90W on it vs 65W base. Those are quads. Intel still rocking that 2016 mojo at heart. We gained a few hundred mhz since Sandy Bridge, yay. 8 gens :)

cucker tarlson10 core on 14nm at +5GHz ? seems standard to me.

cucker tarlsondoesn't manual oc override those anyway ?

Vya Domus250W for 10 cores is staggering, AMD can fit 64 cores in that power budget. With lower clocks yes, but still, that's 6.4x more cores.

cucker tarlsondoesn't manual oc override those anyway ?

Vayra86PL2 is effectively saying 'you can't keep me in turbo like you used to'. Its a boundary that is just there because Intel needs to push that turbo into the red - because it NEEDS to top that bench chart. Any sensibility is out the window.

W1zzardYou can even override those on non-K CPUs, on any motherboard/chipset

Hugh MungusI can't buy an Intel processor anymore. The power bill alone puts me off since my pc is used by multiple people during most of the day.

Add to that a new motherboard, even if I had an Intel motherboard to start with, and the cost of the processor itself and for me it is an AMD clean sweep from budget to high end.

Darmok N JaladThe only way you’d know for sure is to measure your consumption while in use. Desktop tasks are not going to be crazy like this, so you’re only paying the premium under high-demand tasks. To me, the bigger issue is the higher max-TDP just makes everything more expensive—motherboards and coolers have to be beefier to get the advertised performance.

Hugh MungusI can't buy an Intel processor anymore. The power bill alone puts me off since my pc is used by multiple people during most of the day.

Add to that a new motherboard, even if I had an Intel motherboard to start with, and the cost of the processor itself and for me it is an AMD clean sweep from budget to high end.

HenrySomeoneYou do realize that average power consumption (at stock at least) is still lower on Intels when comparing chips with same core/thread counts, right? That's especially true if you use X570 with AMD.

cucker tarlsonthis is a scenario which most of us will find most useful,a mid range chip in gaming

Caring1www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_10400f-1247-vs-amd_ryzen_5_3600xt-1610

HenrySomeoneYou do realize that average power consumption (at stock at least) is still lower on Intels when comparing chips with same core/thread counts, right? That's especially true if you use X570 with AMD.

cucker tarlson?

qcmadnesswww.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-3800x#product-specs
Ryzen 7 3800x: 95W TDP, 3.9GHz Base Clock
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199325/intel-core-i7-10700kf-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz.html
Core i7 10700KF: 125W TDP, 3.8GHz Base Clock

3800x has a higher IPC, higher base clock, and possibly lower power consumption too.

cucker tarlsonis xt line out yet ?


ipc is an elusive terms,if you take cinebench only as you method then yes
base clocks don't really matter,neither for intel or amd so dunno why you're bringing them up
peak power consumption is lower on ryzen's 7nm,but per-use power consumption can vary.
I linked this video earilier,start at 2:00

sorry I don't have one with 10700f vs 3800x,not that many out yet.this is as close to getting same core/thread config at similar frequencies as I can find.