Sunday, August 9th 2020
As AMD Ryzen 4000G Kept Out of DIY Retail Channel, Bootlegging of OEM Parts Takes Over
AMD's decision to not launch its Ryzen 4000G "Renoir" Socket AM4 processors in the DIY retail channel has baffled many in the PC enthusiast community. The parts are now exclusively in the OEM channel, however bootlegging of these chips out of the tray is rampant in Asia. A Hong Kong based eBay seller listed several 4000G SKUs, such as the flagship Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G, at a premium.
Apparently trays of 4000G chips - which aren't even supposed to end up with SI (system integrators), and only with big OEMs (think Compal, Foxconn, Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc), have somehow made their way to Asia's PC retail malls, where they're sold piecemeal, and at a premium. You pay for a chip, and the storekeeper pops one out of the tray and hands it over to you, straight up. Don't want to deal with its pins? Why not bundle it with a compatible motherboard from the same retailer, who will install the chip on the socket for you? Listings such as this one, are fraught with all the risks of bootleg commerce - the chip comes with no warranties, and the seller accepts no returns. Your only protection against getting a paperweight in your box is PayPal. It's time AMD put an end to this bovine defecation with a retail launch.
Sources:
momomo_us, hexus.net
Apparently trays of 4000G chips - which aren't even supposed to end up with SI (system integrators), and only with big OEMs (think Compal, Foxconn, Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc), have somehow made their way to Asia's PC retail malls, where they're sold piecemeal, and at a premium. You pay for a chip, and the storekeeper pops one out of the tray and hands it over to you, straight up. Don't want to deal with its pins? Why not bundle it with a compatible motherboard from the same retailer, who will install the chip on the socket for you? Listings such as this one, are fraught with all the risks of bootleg commerce - the chip comes with no warranties, and the seller accepts no returns. Your only protection against getting a paperweight in your box is PayPal. It's time AMD put an end to this bovine defecation with a retail launch.
38 Comments on As AMD Ryzen 4000G Kept Out of DIY Retail Channel, Bootlegging of OEM Parts Takes Over
It would be interesting if AMD kept track of which customer bought which batch of CPUs, so that they could track down who spilled these to those guys.
Then the package is bundled with a reference cooler with plastic wrap
Edit: brainfart, I wrote seek.
All I'm trying to say, is - patience is a good virtue.
dGPU gaming in 1080p:
Competitive in CPU performance though:
Came in OEM/Bulk package.
In CPU limited gaming it lost to 3800X due to smaller L3. In GPU limited scenarios there was very little difference. IF clock went to 2200Mhz.
With good B-Die RAM it could achieve sub 50ns latency but this and 100-200Mhz better clock wrere not enough to dethrone 3800X in games.
Temps were better tho due to monolithic design.
Also it had 16 PCI-E 3.0 lanes not 8 like may incorrectly claimed. So even 2080Ti would not be bottlenecked.
My reddit thread: Amd/comments/hww2lg
Now we can have pure storage madness with 5 cpu-attached NVMes :cool:
I think AMD plans to release these APUs for retail market at the same time as 4000 series cpus. Less mess for everyone.
I wonder when they do get it. And if
If you buy one to put in a consumer board without any of the corresponding security hardware and software stack to go with it, then you're doing it wrong. Just buy an easy-to get 3700X and call it a day. Lets face it, you weren't buying the Renoir chip for its graphics because the Vega11 in the 3400G really isn't much slower.
Not that much slower, but certainly slower, and with a lot less OC headroom. I'm not even close to considering a 3400G for my HTPC for this very reason. A ~4700G or ~4600G will likely deliver decent 1080p gaming chops if I push the RAM a bit (which it can handle, unlike Picasso), which a 3400G doesn't really achieve. Compound that with seemingly great IF clock scaling (reportedly 2300MHz is relatively normal), a high-clocking iGPU (THW's testing was done at 2.4GHz) and AMD's best IMC so far and this thing will knock the boots off any other APU build.