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GeForce RTX 3070 Uses 14Gbps GDDR6 Memory: ZOTAC and ASUS

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NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce RTX 3070 performance segment graphics card uses 14 Gbps GDDR6 memory speed, according to the product page of the ZOTAC RTX 3070 Twin Edge (model: ZT-A30700E-10P), and the RTX 3070 DUAL by ASUS. This settles speculation around NVIDIA using the fastest available 16 Gbps GDDR6 memory for the RTX 3070. The company is using the even faster 19.5 Gbps and 19 Gbps GDDR6X memory for the RTX 3090 and RTX 3080, which it co-developed with Micron Technology. The use of 14 Gbps GDDR6 across a 256-bit wide memory bus gives the RTX 3070 the same 448 GB/s memory bandwidth as the RTX 2070. NVIDIA plans to launch the GeForce RTX 3070 some time in October, with prices starting at USD $499.

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55 Comments on GeForce RTX 3070 Uses 14Gbps GDDR6 Memory: ZOTAC and ASUS

#26
Calmmo
ViperXTRwhat are the chances of the 3070Ti to be using a GA102 chip?
I would say none. Unless we're talking a year down the line at which point maybe.
Berfs1I am pretty sure the 3070 uses 16 GBps....
FE, maybe AIBs got told to make a slower mem variant?
Raises questions about 3080 AIB partner cards, i assume they also get access to the new nvidia micron memory and thats supposed to just start @19mbps
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#27
TheLostSwede
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moproblems99I mean from a product stack point of view. 3070ti with 16gb followed by a 3080 with 10gb. They would have to EOL the 3080 in this direction instead of continuing to sell like they did with the 2080 and 2080s.
Eh? The 2080 was discontinued after the 2080S launched, only the 2070 and 2060 continued to be available after the supers launched.
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#28
watzupken
ViperXTRwhat are the chances of the 3070Ti to be using a GA102 chip?
Possible if the yields are that bad that there are a lot of chips that can't even be used for the 3080.
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#29
efikkan
ppnNvidia gimped GA104 overall, 3070S won't get far with the full chip. it's like 2080 to 2080S. 2944/5888 14GBps to 3072/6144, give or take 10% performance 6 months later. Woth the wait. Better wait 4070 samsung N5.
Precisely what did Nvidia "gimp" on the GA104?
If this soundly beats RTX 2080 Ti despite potentially having significantly less memory bandwidth, then that's a impressive.

My concern would be that this card would be a little starved for memory bandwidth, but time will tell.
ViperXTRwhat are the chances of the 3070Ti to be using a GA102 chip?
While RTX 3070 Ti isn't confirmed yet, there is a chance RTX 3070 will be using both GA104 and GA102 chips, like they have done in the past.
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#30
M2B
I'm pretty sure that Nvidia could have used 16Gbps memory on this card but they're artificially limiting the performance to make room for a refresh down the line
Though it's pretty damn easy to overclock the memory.
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#31
Legacy-ZA
All I am going to say is; early adopters will get a severe backhand across the face down the line, it's going to hurt, a lot.
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#32
Berfs1
Imagine in 2020 getting one of these yellow adapters lmfao
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#33
Minus Infinity
AMD will certainly have a 6700XT in 8GB and 16GB flavours IMO with ~60CUs, 2.2GHz clocks, 10-15% IPC uplift, and should match 3070.
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#34
ppn
if Nvidia thinks that for every 100 FP32 instructions, there are 35 integer, then 3070 5888 Cuda is the equivalent of 4352 Cuda + 1536 Integer. But there is one big drawback, the 256 bit bus 14GBps. so 2080Ti can be 15% faster. much like 1080Ti and 2070. well almost, since they had the 448 vs 484 bandwidth. 616 vs 448 in this case. That is what the big gimping is all about. 3070 could have been exact 66% of the big chip. like 2080S TU104 and RTX titan TU102 3072/4608. GA104 could have been exact 2/3 of GA102 or 3584/5376 256/384bit but it isn't.
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#35
Legacy-ZA
Minus InfinityAMD will certainly have a 6700XT in 8GB and 16GB flavours IMO with ~60CUs, 2.2GHz clocks, 10-15% IPC uplift, and should match 3070.
A while back, AMD expressed that 8GB VRAM is just too little today. I think they will probably release 10GB+ VRAM cards but time will tell...
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#37
Th3pwn3r
moproblems99That is good and all but then you have a really fudged up product stack.

Let's say this:

3060 6gb
3070 8gb
3080 106b

then they do

3060 6gb
3060ti 12gb
3070 8gb
3070ti 16gb
3080 10gb
3080ti 20gb

They would have a seriously jact up product stack. Unless they are having bad yields and have lots of cutdown chips right now. They could launch the cutdown ones and then supersede with ti/super cards and then EOL the OG. I dunno, this is strange.
When did that ever stop them? Most of their cards lately have been peasant tier, good(Super) and best(ti).
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#38
moproblems99
TheLostSwedeEh? The 2080 was discontinued after the 2080S launched, only the 2070 and 2060 continued to be available after the supers launched.
I saw plenty for sale the whole time. Didn't think they were actually discontinued.
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#39
TheLostSwede
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moproblems99I saw plenty for sale the whole time. Didn't think they were actually discontinued.
Shop stock is not the same as a product not being discontinued.
They were available here for about a couple of months after the Super cards launched, picked one up for the same as a 2070 Super, as the price of the 2080's dropped by a lot here as stores were trying to clear them out of their inventory.
I guess it could've been different in other markets in terms of stock and pricing, but the 2080 was discontinued by Nvidia when the 2080 Super launched.
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#41
medi01
M2BNvidia is marketing the 3070 as a 1440p GPU, so this somewhat makes sense
It is somewhat faster than GPUs in PS5/XSeX, which promise to make 4k baseline, so it doesn't make that much sense.
Oh, and both have at least 10GB for GPU.
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#42
Parn
If 3070 is indeed based on the rumored GA104 die, it's pretty safe to bet there is going to be a 3070 SUPER with a fully enabled GA104 (6144 vs 5888 cuda cores) and 16Gbps GDDR6.
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#43
moproblems99
TheLostSwedeShop stock is not the same as a product not being discontinued.
They were available here for about a couple of months after the Super cards launched, picked one up for the same as a 2070 Super, as the price of the 2080's dropped by a lot here as stores were trying to clear them out of their inventory.
I guess it could've been different in other markets in terms of stock and pricing, but the 2080 was discontinued by Nvidia when the 2080 Super launched.
They continue to be available on Newegg and Amazon. I thought the prices had just been shifted down to slot in appropriately in the product stack. It still would have made sense with these cards as the memory configs never changed - other than the 2060 super (which still made sense).

It will all shake out in the end I suppose.
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#45
Minus Infinity
Legacy-ZAA while back, AMD expressed that 8GB VRAM is just too little today. I think they will probably release 10GB+ VRAM cards but time will tell...
Well they would need 320bit bus and that would spell even more bad news for 3070. I doubt AMD will have trouble matching 3070 and 3080 with Navi 22 and Nav 21 respectively. They won’t beat 3090 and won’t try. it was already reported AMD themselves are targeting 3080. If they do better than the 3070 expect 3070 Ti next year and maybe 3080 with 20GB.
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#46
Easo
MetroidYeah, gtx 1070 was so good that the TI version of it was 1%~3% faster at best, this time willl be different because the 3070 simply sucks, I think the TI version of it will be a lot better.
Not sure if I understood your correctly - but 1070 Ti is very close to stock 1080 in performance. It is at minimum 10% faster than 1070 and, depending on the game, can go more than 20% up.
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#47
Tsukiyomi91
Zotac is known to give really cheesy adapters/converters for some time IMO. Guess we have to wait for a proper 8-pin to mini 12-pin converter kit from PSU makers... =/
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#48
Hawkster222
I saw local pricing in my country started to list the 3070 at 960$
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#50
kayjay010101
Hawkster222I saw local pricing in my country started to list the 3070 at 960$
USD? That's incredibly bad pricing. Even here in Norway, where things are jacked up the wazoo in terms of pricing; the 3070 starts at $642.
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